Yes, I have given some thought to it, but I am with the thinking that the noted conflicts you stated in your previous post were done so without proper authorizations, yet nothing was done to challenge those actions at the congressional level, as they were in fact, the ones that diverted the declaration of war. Question is, why would they authorize actions against others without the declaration of war? But rather, to pass an act such as in 1819...
Congress passes an "Act in addition to the acts prohibiting the Slave Trade," which authorizes the president to send a naval squadron to African waters to apprehend illegal slave traders. It also appropriates $100,000 to resettle recaptured slaves in Africa, finally enforcing the 1808 ban on the slave trade.
Am I just a simpleton with the defining terms and you are correct that they are in fact informal declarations of war?
I understand there were several instances where action was taken without declaring war...such as the example of the Barbary pirates, where our Navy was sent to protect the merchant vessels, not necessarily to go kill pirates. Killing of the pirates was a result of protecting the merchant ships.
I do fall back to the fact that throughout history, our congress has passed legislation that has been unconstitutional from the inception of our government...just look at the federal reserve for one.
I see. And what makes your interpretation of what's Constitutional, what is actually required of Congress in it's power to declare war, more valid than that of folk like Jefferson, Washington (called out of retirement to command our armed forces during the Quasi War), Madison, Monroe, and Hamilton?
Consider: The Constitution spells out the actual text of the Presidential Oath of Office. Those exact words are to be used to swear in a new President. It does not, however, specify what form a declaration of war must take. There's no "before a war may be declared, Congress will vote on the following statement [text of wording of declaration of war]" paralleling that of the Presidential oath of office. Nope. Since it's not defined in the Constitution, by default it's left to Congress to decide what form constitutes a declaration of war. On what basis is something like "Congress authorizes the President to begin military operations against the nation of France in response to seizure of American ships by warships of the French Navy" (one of the main causes of the quasi-war with France) not qualify if Congress decides that it is sufficient?
Now, as for the claim that Congress has passed Unconstitutional laws from the beginning, consider the situation. Piracy suppression has been a function of the Navy since there was a Navy, and that is before the Constitution was written. Piracy Suppression involves using military force against foreign (often) nationals based out of foreign (often) ports. (That some pirates may have been US Nationals operating out of US ports doesn't change that anti-pirate operations were carried out against foreign nationals on foreign--if any--flag vessels, sailing out of foreign ports.) Piracy suppression was going on before the Constitution was written. It was going on while the Constitution was being written and debated. It was going on while the Constitution was being ratified. And it continued after the Constitution was ratified. Now, if the Congressional power to declare war was actually intended to prevent any use of military power outside the US (we'll leave aside the question of inside since Posse Commitatus was still pretty far in the future), we have here an example of the US Navy doing something before the Constitution was written that this clause was supposed to forbid, then continuing it after the Constitution was ratified . . . and nobody said anything?
If the provision that Congress is the branch that declares war was really to prevent use of military force without Congress saying "a state of war exists between..." then shouldn't something have been said when Commodore David Porter went out with 20 gunboats in an effort to suppress piracy (given that task by Thomas Jefferson)?
I mean, the Louisiana Purchase was strictly speaking unconstitutional and, in fact, Jefferson himself questioned the constitutionality of it--and did it anyway. But the point is the question was raised. The Constitutionality was questioned.
Where are the questions, before the modern era, of folk questioning the idea that not all uses of military force by the United States require a formal declaration if war using language something like "declare that a state of war exists between the US and..."?