Shoot point blank

[tackdriver]

1. I don't recall anyone granting you the sole knowledge of what is or isn't a smart move.

2. Shoot Point Blank doesn't support the shooting sports. When was the last time they held an IDPA match? A USPSA match? A GSSF match? ANY sport shooting event? They don't even allow you to work on the basics you need for sport or self defense with a handgun, like drawing, target transitions, or rapid fire.

They, like almost all indoor ranges, are exclusively a revenue generator for the owner (not that I object to that in principle). What they are NOT are a supporter of the shooting sports or the right to keep and bear arms. At least not until they actually DO something more than putting up Grunt Style and Black Rifle Coffee posters on the wall.

JEEP!!! Is that you?

 

[Johnny Chimpo Shooter]

JEEP!!! Is that you?

No

 

[bwframe]

JEEP!!! Is that you?

It ain't JEEP, but he's been here before, under another name. That's for sure.

 

[Ahap]

All I did was relate what occurred. If that is “bashing”, Beam me up Scoty.

Agreed. That didn't meet the criteria for a good and proper "bashing".

 

[Ingomike]

Bashing? Are you what, 10 years old?

If that's what you think about highlighting poor customer service, then put me down also as someone who doesn't care what you think

THERE WAS NO POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE ALLEGED. The OP was ticked they charge a fee of $5 they call a liability waver fee, that is good for one whole year at their ranges.

 

[Ingomike]

Agreed. That didn't meet the criteria for a good and proper "bashing".

What exactly was the OP meaning when he said “Whew, I feel better now”?

 

[Johnny Chimpo Shooter]

It ain't JEEP, but he's been here before, under another name. That's for sure.

Swing and a miss

 

[Johnny Chimpo Shooter]

THERE WAS NO POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE ALLEGED. The OP was ticked they charge a fee of $5 they call a liability waver fee, that is good for one whole year at their ranges.

We all get to decide what we consider poor customer service.

Your agreement or assent is not necessary.

 

[Ahap]

What exactly was the OP meaning when he said “Whew, I feel better now”?

That's what you took offense to? It bothered him, so he let it out, rationally in my opinion. He didn't call for a boycott of the place. He more or less stated, "If you want to go there, be my guest. But I won't."

 

[Ingomike]

No it did not. I posted about it in one of the linked threads. When the salesman asked for my ID, I asked him why? He stated that their policy is to scan a government ID for all transactions. As he was saying this, I was holding a $10 bill in my hand for a $6 transaction. His smug attitude pissed me off and I firmly replied "Nope", left the item on the counter and walked out.

For those who grumble that we are hurting a local firearms retailer, I say screw them and their intrusive policies. Too many decent gun shops around that I will give my business to, before those pissy barfmats.

Ok so let’s reverse this. Many times, on a weekend, I go into a rural small gun store, you likely have one near home, to look arround. Sometimes they stare, watch me, ignore me talking to those that hang out there. Seem put out out to show me a gun I want to see, I get it, they sell most of their sales to people they know, I’m a stranger in a small town.

I would never come to the forum to bash them even though they gave me poor service. I get why. I don’t get why those who go to the city want to bash a company that has invested in three big stores and ranges because they are not like little small town gun stores?

And as much as INGO values low prices they usually have them…

 

[marvin02]

2. Shoot Point Blank doesn't support the shooting sports. When was the last time they held an IDPA match? A USPSA match? A GSSF match? ANY sport shooting event? They don't even allow you to work on the basics you need for sport or self defense with a handgun, like drawing, target transitions, or rapid fire.

My local SPB donated prizes for a match at my local club. I have no idea what they do at the corporate level.

I can understand the rules about holster use, etc. when they have no control over the experience and competence of the shooters who come in for range time.

I travel for work and take advantage of the fact that my membership let's me shoot at any of their locations.

Everyone is free to make their own decisions based on their own experiences and feedback from others. I find it useful to hear from other members about both types of experience.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Whew..
After reading this thread I'm exhausted..lol. I've been to a couple point blanks. I didn't care for them either. Reminds me of some sort of Walmart experience. BUT....
There range is Nice and Clean. For the most part there prices are sorta in line.
There business men first. 2A second and gun range insurance is astronomical. I know of 2 local ranges closed due to insurance cost alone.
Would I go there again? Sure..if they had what I wanted at a price I'm willing to pay. There are other places I prefer more but at the same time I don't want them to close.
Just my 2 cents

 

[doddg]

Love my weekly time at Greenwood Shoot Point Blank the past 4 yrs.
I go twice/week and stay +/- 3 hours b/c at this point in life, it counts as exercise.
I used to go 3-4 times/week, but I'm slowing down.
I pay a low monthly fee for the Monday - Friday membership.
It costs me about 50 cents per hour to shoot there for a normal month of 40 hours.
Occasionally, I've bought guns, holsters, mags, targets, mag loaders & etc. during my time there.
I've even sold a gun to a Rangemaster once.
Have bought/sold a few guns in the parking lot to INGO members.
Staff always has treated me pleasantly & respectfully & I enjoy my time there.

 

[PRasko]

Never stepped foot in a pb, no beef there. Noone records my info but government officials period.

But with all that said

What the hell is a hold harmless fee?

 

[pmbiker]

Never stepped foot in a pb, no beef there. Noone records my info but government officials period.

But with all that said

What the hell is a hold harmless fee?

Google "hold harmless agreement". Then imagine someone wants to charge you a nominal fee to sign one.

 

[PRasko]

If that's the sheet of paper they have you sign to shoot at indoor ranges yea I get that but now they wanna charge you to sign it?




Too many companies learning from EA and communistcast.

 

[Ingomike]

Never stepped foot in a pb, no beef there. Noone records my info but government officials period.

But with all that said

What the hell is a hold harmless fee?

It is called a “liability waiver” fee.

Range USA Indy North | CARMEL Shooting Range & Gun Shop

shootpointblank.com

 

[ljk]

I've been there as guest of member's when the Carmel location first opened, but I've never spent a penny there.

Their clientele rakes hippy stank.

I wouldn't care if they go bust.

 

[xwing]

I agree with the OP that it's an annoying "gotcha" extra charge. If you go infrequently to that specific range, it's $5 extra each time. $5 isn't going to break anyone, but it is annoying to see "extra" charges on top of their already high prices. Of course Shoot Point Blank has every right to charge whatever they feel the market will bear. And customers have every right to go elsewhere.

I've shot at that particular range twice. I think it's a nice range which is staffed well with good equipment, but their prices are a bit on the high side. I prefer lower priced shooting options (of which there are many.) But to each his own.

But I find it very odd that people are "up in arms" with the OP for daring to complain about what he felt was a poor range experience. Isn't that the point of the forum? To share our experiences and POV?

 

[PRasko]

It is called a “liability waiver” fee.

Range USA Indy North | CARMEL Shooting Range & Gun Shop

shootpointblank.com

Yea, I wouldn’t pay it either.

No indoor range ive ever been to has ever charged me one. I’ve signed plenty, but have never been charged a “fee” lol

With that said I haven’t stepped foot into an indoor range in almost 8 years. No need to now