Sandy Hook Shooting Fully Exposed Gone Viral!

[mydoghasfleas]

If you could accept as a possible premiss that some in gov had such intentions to pass (or help pass) legislation which they believe is for the "greater good" and what they were doing would ultimately save lives, wouldnt they then rationalize this action? (Think abortion doctor killing) Not to mention the power you gain over an unarmed population.

The killing was extremely efficient. Not many injured. How many "trips to the range" did this kid take? All this seems to have been very tactically proficient, rather than just a damn good shot, at small moving targets no less.

Some say he was wearing a mask, why would you wear a mask knowing you were going to end your own life. Did he wear a mask when he shot his own mother too?!
If someone else was doing this to set him up however, a mask would make perfect sense.

How long prior to this event did he get his hands on his brothers ID? Did his brother know it was missing, or was it a fake one? And why did he have it on him? Did his brother give it to him to play with or what? Did he dig it out of the trash after his brother got rid of it years ago thinking he could use it in his future killing spree? Or was it put their to cause confusion or stage the scene. I have a huge problem with the ID.

Witnesses claim to see more than one person. Did anyone see his face? It is very distinguishable.

I cant believe I am thinking this but it would seem a possibility that all this could have been done by pro's who then placed his allready dead body at the scene. It would seem to me to be the simplest way to do it. If you get caught, we do not know you kinda thing.

I am not saying this is what happened, I am just saying it could have. And so far, not much else with this story makes sense. The longer it takes for their version of the "real" events to come out, the more suspicious I will be.

 

[jimmy_ftwayne]

I'll try to address the questions brought up in the video one at a time.

The donation page posted on the 13th clearly shows that some people are just clairvoyant.

 

[Libertarian01]

To All,

This entire video is a joke. Pure BS nonsense.

EVERYTHING in here is unofficial! There is not one official report that has any relevant information. Even the medical examiner interview is not an official report. He may not have been at liberty to divulge certain information to the public.

There is not one single shred of official police investigation paperwork shown on this.

Every single source is media footage that cannot be taken at any value.

This is the fog of war! This is not a conspiracy unless you consider the medias goal of one upmanship to gain an exclusive a conspiracy, then you may have one.

This video is nothing but conjecture, hypothesis and uneducated guesswork by a source that has no skill to determine bupkiss. How do parents act when they have lost their children? We may think we know, but not a single psychiatrist was interviewed in this nonsense video to provide expert opinion.

Take the alleged issue with a nurse. We don't know who the reporter met, what was said, was the nurse "led" down a path of thinking and misspoke or was just too emotionally disturbed to make any coherent statement. Nope. We just get an afterwards video of what a reporters says was spoken and then, with great diabolical reverence, questioning of the authenticity of the nurse or the mother. BS nonsense again.

All this video proves is that any goober with some software and weak inductive reasoning can try to trick the public into believing the man in the moon really exists, if only we base our pathetic guesswork on nothing more than media footage.

I am sorry if I sound too harsh, but watch the video and look for anything that could be presented in a court of law as "actual evidence / a real fact." There is NOTHING!

The problem is that good people will be distracted by this kind of smoke and mirrors from real issues and fail to understand the difference between actual verifiable facts and uneducated guesswork.

Regards,

Doug

 

[Indy60]

Watch the raw video and tell me you see anything but the men standing around after running into the woods all throwing long shadows on the ground because of the time of day and the time of year. That is not a person in custody, it is a Shadow of one of the police officers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgEl0G7dx4&feature=player_detailpage

 

[MikeDVB]

EVERYTHING in here is unofficial! There is not one official report that has any relevant information. Even the medical examiner interview is not an official report. He may not have been at liberty to divulge certain information to the public.

So what you're saying is that, for you to believe it, the government needs to stamp it as "official"?

How about the Anne Frank diary... Obviously that's fake too because the German Government didn't put their "official" stamp on it?

How does something become "official"? Who has the power to make something that is "un-official" into something that is "official"?

There is not one single shred of official police investigation paperwork shown on this.

Well no, so why don't you find some and prove the video wrong?

Every single source is media footage that cannot be taken at any value.

Because they're so good at editing these days that they are editing live feeds and adding in/removing entire details from the footage?

Wait... I don't think we're do that point... are we?

This is the fog of war! This is not a conspiracy unless you consider the medias goal of one upmanship to gain an exclusive a conspiracy, then you may have one.

I don't see the media anywhere (that I've seen) stating that there is or was a conspiracy. Where is "one upmanship to gain an exclusive" on the "conspiracy" when none of the media outlets (that I am aware of) are reporting on it?

This video is nothing but conjecture, hypothesis and uneducated guesswork

Sure, it's conjecture... Sure there are likely some hypothesis (educated guesses), and there likely is some uneducated guesswork as well. Nobody is selling it as the gospel or saying that everything said in the video is 100% beyond repute.

The video doesn't exist to convince you of anything, but to make you think/analyze/examine it yourself. When I sent it to a few friends, I made sure to tell them to conduct their own research and to draw their own conclusions from what has been presented to them including but not limited to the video.

by a source that has no skill to determine bupkiss.

You know the video's creator, education, and experience at researching?

How do parents act when they have lost their children? We may think we know, but not a single psychiatrist was interviewed in this nonsense video to provide expert opinion.

Well no - we're not in a court of law where we're calling witnesses and getting testimony under oath. It's simply footage of the alleged parents and their actions a day or two after the incident.

How would I act if my son was gunned down? I don't know... But I can tell you I wouldn't seem to be in a jovial mood 24 to 48 hours afterwards and I wouldn't need to work myself up for a media interview.

Take the alleged issue with a nurse. We don't know who the reporter met, what was said, was the nurse "led" down a path of thinking and misspoke or was just too emotionally disturbed to make any coherent statement. Nope. We just get an afterwards video of what a reporters says was spoken and then, with great diabolical reverence, questioning of the authenticity of the nurse or the mother. BS nonsense again.

So what you're saying is - don't question it at all? Accept it at face value for what the media originally said it was?

I am sorry if I sound too harsh, but watch the video and look for anything that could be presented in a court of law as "actual evidence / a real fact." There is NOTHING!

Who said that the video contained evidence for court, or that this was going to court, or that anybody in the video was under oath or that the video contained any depositions? I must have missed the part where the video stated everything contained therein was fact and should be accepted without question... Could you show me that part?

The problem is that good people will be distracted by this kind of smoke and mirrors from real issues and fail to understand the difference between actual verifiable facts and uneducated guesswork.

I've done my own research and I have enough unanswered questions that I don't buy the 'official story'. I also don't necessarily buy everything in this video at face value either.

Any reasonable individual when presented with enough information will be able to draw their own conclusions. This isn't court, we're not under oath.

 

[Greenmonsta79]

I thought the whole thing reaked of BS when I first heard about the shooting anyway and especially with the interviews with the supposed parents and the "put on" emotions, false flag plain and simple.

 

[atvdave]

To All,

This entire video is a joke. Pure BS nonsense.

Gee Mr. Obvious... I never made the connection.

 

[Libertarian01]

MikeDVB,

The problem is there is NO information here. NONE.

When I look at a story I look for verifiable information, aka facts. This video doesn't present a single fact that can be verified.

I can verify Ann Frank. By the way, I have personally been to her home and hers was the only location I traveled to in Europe that made me cry.

It is going to be monthes before an accurate understanding of parts of the event emerge. We may never have a completely accurate picture of the timeline or events. Too many people see things through their own eyes with their own prejudices. Example: Witnesses to a criminal in action. If you have a child, someone in their 20's, someone in their 30's, someone in the 50's, and someone in their 80's they will all be different on "guessing" how old the criminal was. They aren't lying, it is simply perspective. I say that only to explain why, when we get actual witness testimony, there will be good, honest people disagreeing with one another about exactly what transpired. That doesn't make it a conspiracy of anything. It makes it the normal fog of war.

If this video creator had any credentials (that could be verified) I would hope he would have put them out there. I'll say he has none because he hasn't said he has any.

Were I going to do an in depth study if this event I sure as heck wouldn't use media footage at all without backing it up with first hand information. For example, what was in the trunk of the car? The completely incompetent moron video producer shows you long range video and the guesses at nonsense. If I were doing it I would track down the name of the officer(s) who opened the trunk then read and show their reports. Those are called facts. Then, IF the officers reports were contradicted by other reports I may have found something useful to report.

Watch the video and ask yourself if anything shown is verified by another source that would know. It isn't.

This video takes media coverage that is all over the board and tries to make something out of nothing. When someone introduces real facts we may learn something useful. This video isn't it.

Regards,

Doug

 

[rnmcguire]

Interesting

All I can say is the video sure makes you think about things differently. I know that the media is a source of misinformation so the fact that their reporting contradicted itself is no surprise. There are alot of troubling things about this story that concern me though.

 

[vitamink]

The donation page posted on the 13th clearly shows that some people are just clairvoyant.

Oh, clearly

That's probably what it is...either a giant government conspiracy perpetrated by 100's of actors, while making several GIANT glaring obvious mistakes like posing for photos with girls who are dead and posting "donate to us" a day in advance to beat the rush. And doing this all the while keeping it a secret, in order to get your guns taken away...That is the only plausible explanation other than they can read minds...and by doing so they again set a donation page up in advance and assumed that even 1 person out of a billion + viewers wouldn't notice.

Lets neglect the fact that mass shootings pop up often enough that .gov could easily exploit an "actual" one or any of the recent one's for political or gun grabbing needs and not need to hire 100's of people, pay off the news, and swear everyone to secrecy.

...Or it could just be this:

HOLY **** tin foil hat people!!! even the truthers or whatever the hell they call themselves, were able to see the future!!!! They reported SANDY HOOK was a hoax before it even happened!!!!! check the timestamp!!!! They are in it with .Gov They must read minds or it's a giant complicated intricate conspiracy because the only other option is that i'm a moron, and it can't be that.

Richmond hills explosion occurred Nov 10, 2012 at about 11:10 PM

From Google:

Aunt of Richmond Hill victim speaks | Video Library | Indianapolis Star
www.indystar.com/.../Aunt-of-Richmond-Hill-victim-speaks Nov 5, 2012 - The three suspects in the fatal Richmond Hill blast walk Dec. 24, 2012, · 'Not guilty' pleas entered for 3 suspects in explosion. Aunt of Richmond Hill victim: 'He ...

OH MY GOD 5 days before the event!...that whole government drone attack theory must be correct!

Folks this is how these morons do this and convince other morons that its real:

Go to google and pick a date of something recent that you know happened. Don't choose Sandy Hook as the shuck and jive has already been done for you. Now go to search tools underneath the search bar. A menu then appears that says "anytime" Click that. It'll now allow you to enter a date. Chose a date 1 month earlier to a day before the actual event. Google timestamps are so messed up that you'll be able to fool your friends that someone on the internet knew who would win the indy 500 days before the race.

So, who's up for a road trip? I figured we'd go **** on the kids graves, since there isn't anyone buried there, and we can beat up the parents for being lying, actor, psychics that want our guns.

 

[2ndAmendmentdefender]

All I can say is the video sure makes you think about things differently. I know that the media is a source of misinformation so the fact that their reporting contradicted itself is no surprise. There are alot of troubling things about this story that concern me though.

Not saying Sandy Hook is a hoax or it is not a hoax.......

No one will know for sure, there are a lot of holes in the story. We know the media lies, we know the government lies, we know people lie!

I for one am suspicious of our media and also of our government especially under the socialist Obama.

Sandy Hook Hoax or Not is what is driving your government to infringe on your 2nd Amendment rights. A dis-armed population is sure a worthy prize for tyranny to take hold!

Adolph Hitler ordered the burning of the Reichtag and blamed it on the communists. And then......

Nazi newspapers continued to print false evidence of Communist conspiracies, claiming that only Hitler and the Nazis could prevent a Communist takeover. Joseph Goebbels now had control of the State-run radio and broadcast Nazi propaganda and Hitler's speeches all across the nation.

Only Obama and the liberals can save America from the assault weapons...

It is good to question and suspect everything that comes out of the media and from your government especially when that information is promoting an infringement on your Constitutional Rights.

Link to History----->The History Place - Rise of Hitler: The Reichstag Burns

Sometimes it can be hard to believe......

 

[Walken]

These threads are pretty embarrassing.

Because you don't like the outcome (calls for gun bans), you try to wish away the originating event?

Don't like Bush's Global War on Terrorism? Disbelieve the reality of 9/11.

Don't like the current President? Disbelieve the reality of the election.

Don't like liberal calls for gun bans? Disbelieve the reality of Sandy Hook.

Trying to logically argue about 2nd shooters and media soundbites is pointless. Conspiracy theories are an emotional response.

There is nothing fair about legal gun owners being targeted because of the actions of a murderous 20 year old, but it doesn't mean he didn't do it.

It would be convenient if we could defeat the gun grabbers by discovering some secret fact about Sandy Hook that would make them go away, but that is not going to happen.

It's not fair, but tragic circumstances have given the gun banners political momentum. We will preserve our rights with phone calls, letters, and NRA action. Not by disbelieving the reality of Sandy Hook.

 

[ATM]

It would take a rather naive conspiracy theorist to believe the government/media version of any noteworthy event these days.

Sadly, our nation is full of such folks.

And sure, there are plenty of far-fetched explanations out there. Heck, a handful are almost as loony as the "official" versions

...but not many.

 

[IndyDave1776]

These threads are pretty embarrassing.

Because you don't like the outcome (calls for gun bans), you try to wish away the originating event?

Don't like Bush's Global War on Terrorism? Disbelieve the reality of 9/11.

Don't like the current President? Disbelieve the reality of the election.

Don't like liberal calls for gun bans? Disbelieve the reality of Sandy Hook.

Trying to logically argue about 2nd shooters and media soundbites is pointless. Conspiracy theories are an emotional response.

There is nothing fair about legal gun owners being targeted because of the actions of a murderous 20 year old, but it doesn't mean he didn't do it.

It would be convenient if we could defeat the gun grabbers by discovering some secret fact about Sandy Hook that would make them go away, but that is not going to happen.

It's not fair, but tragic circumstances have given the gun banners political momentum. We will preserve our rights with phone calls, letters, and NRA action. Not by disbelieving the reality of Sandy Hook.

1. If the official narrative were true, it would not be constantly changing and it would be plausible. Neither condition is true.

2. When there are precincts and even counties reporting more votes than there are eligible voters or perhaps even living people, that is a pretty fair sign that there is a problem. Dead folks, foreign nationals, young children, fictional characters, cats, dogs, and horses should not be voting. When any of the above are found to be voting, there is a problem.

3. There is nothing emotional about seeing that the official narrative does not line up with reality. The only people who have a problem with the observation of this happening are those emotionally dependent upon believing that nothing is wrong when Ray Charles could see that it is.

You burst in the door with a scant handful of posts and proceed to start slinging insults and fail to notice that the things which you prefer to believe are just as lacking in support as most any alternate theory I have heard that does not involve space aliens. I recommend that you stop using your head for an enema. It will make your time here much more pleasant.

 

[BigMatt]

I recommend that you stop using your head for an enema. It will make your time here much more pleasant.

Way to welcome a new member and a different perspective.

 

[Classic]

IndyDave is correct. This is not a welcome thread and there is something very wrong with the official story. System won't let me rep you Dave but +1 from me anyway.

 

[HoughMade]

Never was the term "viral" more appropriate.

 

[Justin Case]

Has anyone heard any more about the guy they handcuffed that was in the woods?

Sandy Hook Mystery Man Identified; Why Did This Off Duty SWAT Officer Armed With A Gun Run Off Into The Woods Instead Of Helping The Students? | Conspiracy Theories

 

[Indy60]

1. If the official narrative were true, it would not be constantly changing and it would be plausible. Neither condition is true.

2. When there are precincts and even counties reporting more votes than there are eligible voters or perhaps even living people, that is a pretty fair sign that there is a problem. Dead folks, foreign nationals, young children, fictional characters, cats, dogs, and horses should not be voting. When any of the above are found to be voting, there is a problem.

3. There is nothing emotional about seeing that the official narrative does not line up with reality. The only people who have a problem with the observation of this happening are those emotionally dependent upon believing that nothing is wrong when Ray Charles could see that it is.

You burst in the door with a scant handful of posts and proceed to start slinging insults and fail to notice that the things which you prefer to believe are just as lacking in support as most any alternate theory I have heard that does not involve space aliens. I recommend that you stop using your head for an enema. It will make your time here much more pleasant.

Have the New Town authorities ever given a official definitive statement of the events as they happened?

 

[vitamink]

For those of you that are still "baffled" what have I not fully explained that has you convinced that this i a giant government conspiracy? Break down the main points for me again and i will tackle them 1 at a time. The only 3 that people kept pointing two are below.

You can't still be confused over the time stamp thing as i showed you how to do it yourself to amaze your friends.

I showed you that the sister is the one getting the picture with obama and not the deceased.

I showed you that whenever tragedy strikes people try to be apart of it.

What's left? What still has you convinced?