Robbery stopped by firearms instructor

[NyleRN]

BBI,

If one was to intervene in a armed robbery, how would that be perceived by the police?

Would it be investigated like a self defence shooting? Would your gun be confiscated?

If not the gun, definitely your wallet

 

[nra4ever]

My bad. But even facing 3 guys, I'd rather have more ammo with me.

I agree with you. I always keep my rifle in my vehicle with 7 30rd mags plus 4 side arm mags. Even then I think I need to add more ar mags.

 

[stephen87]

If I'm sitting in there enjoying a Whopper, I'll continue to sit there a la Jules and Vincent in the diner. If they decide I'm a target, well, that wouldn't be a good decision.

Purely hypothetical here. You're sitting there enjoying your Whopper Jr (let's be honest with ourselves here) and in come Vincent and Jules waltz in. You continue on your way because, well, cash just isn't worth it. They then draw their gun and point it at Marvin behind the counter saying they're gonna kill him. Continue eating or intervene? I'm not sure this is what happened, but it would be a game-changer in my opinion.

Also, for those of you wondering, the store (if not changed with the new outside remodel) looks like a backwards capital 'L'. He could have easily had the drop on them with the way the doors are set up. You enter directly across from the registers, customers have their backs to you.

 

[numbaonecoltsfan]

BBI,

If one was to intervene in a armed robbery, how would that be perceived by the police?

Would it be investigated like a self defence shooting? Would your gun be confiscated?

Second this. Great question

 

[stephen87]

IF it were coach, I wish the best of luck to him. That would be an awful situation to be in.


Also, in this scenario, does that make anyone rethink their smaller, low capacity, carry guns?

Do you question your carry gun every time you see a news story about a shooting? I know I do. I have started grabbing an extra magazine as I head out the door. Typically, I'm in my car from work to home or vice versa and I'll take the odds that 6+1 plus an extra 6 round magazine plus a car is a decent outcome for me. I'f I'm actually going somewhere besides I work, I try to grab my G19, unless I know I'm going somewhere that they frown upon it (movies, Simon malls, etc).

 

[Vigilant]

If not the gun, definitely your wallet

Listening to the Deputy Chief last night was heartening! She was basically happy the civilian was there, and happy he stopped it! Totally blew my mind from one so high ranking!

 

[HoughMade]

...If you have a clear avenue of escape you must take it to claim self defense...

Citation please.

 

[Vigilant]

My bad. But even facing 3 guys, I'd rather have more ammo with me.

Not calling you out, and I carry several spares, despite what some say about actually needing them. The news did say 3, but there were 5 when they spwere stopped by police, so... I'm guessing/betting they didn't see Mr. Good Samaritan go in after their buddies, or this could have been way worse. Or the other two were just big *******, and decided to wait it out in the car?

 

[churchmouse]

Not calling you out, and I carry several spares, despite what some say about actually needing them. The news did say 3, but there were 5 when they spwere stopped by police, so... I'm guessing/betting they didn't see Mr. Good Samaritan go in after their buddies, or this could have been way worse. Or the other two were just big *******, and decided to wait it out in the car?

All the guns they had were most likely in the store.
No evidence of this.

 

[amboy49]

I'll admit I haven't read the entire thread so if this has been said I apologize. I was watching the news report when they showed comments from the PIO from the police dept. She did not make any condemning statements re: the firearms instructor's actions and, in fact, actually came close to complimenting the actions of the citizen.

Actually surprising . . . . . . . and refreshing.

 

[lovemachine]

Do you question your carry gun every time you see a news story about a shooting? I know I do. I have started grabbing an extra magazine as I head out the door. Typically, I'm in my car from work to home or vice versa and I'll take the odds that 6+1 plus an extra 6 round magazine plus a car is a decent outcome for me. I'f I'm actually going somewhere besides I work, I try to grab my G19, unless I know I'm going somewhere that they frown upon it (movies, Simon malls, etc).

No, I don't question what I carry. It's either a Glock 19, or a Glock 26. I won't carry anything that has less than 10 rounds. And always have a spare mag for malfunctions.

 

[foszoe]

Name any one that would eat bacon from McDonalds?

Me! BEC Biscuit!

 

[Fargo]

Citation please.

Why would he need citations with his level of enlightenment? Remember, he's the one who posted about how we are all a bunch of ignorant Jack-wagons incapable of figuring out which end of a gun bullets come out of for daring to criticize firearms instructors who are shill pieces for Gabe's Suarez's merchandise.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ow-1911-can-get-you-killed-3.html#post6136114

 

[Kirk Freeman]

They then draw their gun and point it at Marvin behind the counter saying they're gonna kill him. Continue eating or intervene?

Is Marvin an extension of my gene pool? If no, I am paying and not waiting for change.

CanIshoothimnowcanIshoothimnowcanIshoothimnowcanIshoothimnow . . . . can I, can I?

Keep your ****ing gun in the holster. Finish your turkey club and pay your tab.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Originally Posted by cedartop
As far as we know, he was acting under no authority. If you have a clear avenue of escape you must take it to claim self defense. I am not saying he is wrong, or that I wouldn't have done the same thing, but from the facts I see in the article, a good case could be made that he didn't meet the requirements of a self defense shooting. Again, in this venue, under these circumstances he is good. In different areas, or if someone else would have been hurt, not so much. IAMAL, YMMV, etc.

Just who in the heck is teaching our "instructors"?

If you have a clear avenue of escape you must take it to claim self defense.

Who is telling you this? That is not Indiana law unless you are the aggressor.

 

[Libertarian01]

Citation please.

Well, in TEXAS.......

 

[Fargo]

Just who in the heck is teaching our "instructors"?



Who is telling you this? That is not Indiana law unless you are the aggressor.

Shut up jackwagon, you are clearly ignorant. Your law degree is not welcome here.

 

[Vigilant]

All the guns they had were most likely in the store.
No evidence of this.

Agreed, just stating what could have been. No evidence the other two were even there, and didn't get picked up later, before the police violated their rights by stopping them based on loose heresay evidence!(still can't purple)

 

[bwframe]

I agree with you. I always keep my rifle in my vehicle with 7 30rd mags plus 4 side arm mags. Even then I think I need to add more ar mags.

Now there's an angle.
If you came in looking like you know what you are doing, with rifle leveled, there might not have been a gunfight?

Then again, the fourth gunner (parking lot, posing as customer, behind the counter?) might have put one in your noggin and left with your rifle?

 

[churchmouse]

Why would he need citations with his level of enlightenment? Remember, he's the one who posted about how we are all a bunch of ignorant Jack-wagons incapable of figuring out which end of a gun bullets come out of for daring to criticize firearms instructors who are shill pieces for Gabe's Suarez's merchandise.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ow-1911-can-get-you-killed-3.html#post6136114

Now I remember that thread. It had my hair up.
But I have been called worse.