Politically motivated violence thread

[ArcadiaGP]

Jussie Smollett may strike back with lawsuit after charges dropped

 

[ArcadiaGP]

What the **** now?

Cook County clerk’s office tells ABC they were shocked that no written motions were filed with the court in connection with dismissal in the Smollett case. On top of that, the case has been wiped off their database as if it never existed.

 

[T.Lex]

What the **** now?

Cook County clerk’s office tells ABC they were shocked that no written motions were filed with the court in connection with dismissal in the Smollett case. On top of that, the case has been wiped off their database as if it never existed.

 

[spencer rifle]

What the **** now?

Cook County clerk’s office tells ABC they were shocked that no written motions were filed with the court in connection with dismissal in the Smollett case. On top of that, the case has been wiped off their database as if it never existed.

As if what never existed?

 

[2A_Tom]

IANAL, but I have watched a lot of Perry Mason.

Am I incorrect in believing, that the mere dropping of a charge is not an acquittal, therefore, it would not constitute double jeopardy if the charges were refiled?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Even your sweetheart Savannah?

Yes! I honestly expected her to come to his defense in some kind of twisted way, but she didn't.

 

[T.Lex]

IANAL, but I have watched a lot of Perry Mason.

Am I incorrect in believing, that the mere dropping of a charge is not an acquittal, therefore, it would not constitute double jeopardy if the charges were refiled?

Generally, that is correct. Different states can have different specific rules on how many times criminal charges can be filed for the same conduct, but jeopardy usually doesn't "attach" until a jury is sworn in.

 

[HoughMade]

Generally, that is correct. Different states can have different specific rules on how many times criminal charges can be filed for the same conduct, but jeopardy usually doesn't "attach" until a jury is sworn in.

...or when the first witness is sworn in a bench trial.

 

[Phase2]

Great reference. Not sure how many would recognize it any more.

 

[printcraft]

He better not walk around MAGA country AKA Chicago at 2 am anymore... Probably a lot of pissed off nigerian Trump supports waiting to take a piece out of his ass as a result of these shenanigans.

 

[T.Lex]

...or when the first witness is sworn in a bench trial.

Showoff.

 

[T.Lex]

He better not walk around MAGA country AKA Chicago at 2 am anymore... Probably a lot of pissed off nigerian Trump supports waiting to take a piece out of his ass as a result of these shenanigans.

The Halloween costumes this year could get especially awkward....

 

[KLB]

Jussie Smollett may strike back with lawsuit after charges dropped

We could be so lucky. Could his lawyers be that dumb?

 

[2A_Tom]

[video=youtube;EXW7RU9z4Yg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXW7RU9z4Yg[/video]

 

[KellyinAvon]

IANAL, but I have watched a lot of Perry Mason.

Am I incorrect in believing, that the mere dropping of a charge is not an acquittal, therefore, it would not constitute double jeopardy if the charges were refiled?

What all the lawyers said, plus federal charges wouldn’t be double jeopardy

 

[rhino]

He better not walk around MAGA country AKA Chicago at 2 am anymore... Probably a lot of pissed off nigerian Trump supports waiting to take a piece out of his ass as a result of these shenanigans.

As long as he doesn't buy a sandwich, he should be good. Clearly the Subway was what alerted the Trump supporters that a gay, anti-trump activist was available and ready to be victimized.

 

[2A_Tom]

What all the lawyers said, plus federal charges wouldn’t be double jeopardy

I was just talking about another grand jury refiling the state indictment.

 

[KG1]

Interesting.

If charges are dropped, and it isn't an active investigation, Illinois law may allow for the complete file to be released.

In this situation, Chicago PD has some motivation to actually release the whole thing.

I say why the hell not. Smollett gets to strut around comfortably proclaiming he’s innocent because the case files are sealed at this time and his attorney pops off about innocent until proven guilty then evidence to rebutt that should be allowed.

 

[actaeon277]

[video=youtube;EXW7RU9z4Yg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXW7RU9z4Yg[/video]

What kind of world am I in, where TMZ is reporting actual news?

 

[jamil]

Interesting.

If charges are dropped, and it isn't an active investigation, Illinois law may allow for the complete file to be released.

In this situation, Chicago PD has some motivation to actually release the whole thing.

It’s been reported that the charges were dropped and the records sealed. If the police can release the evidence, exactly what was sealed?