Politically motivated violence thread

[printcraft]

Huh. I actually don’t know of anyone.

Same.

.....Maybe I can ask the Democrats I know at work. I’m sure they’ll have some stories.

That is where I would start.

 

[rhino]

But you have a lot of education so the statement,in effect, was true.
I have no idea what this thread is about.Just stopped in to mess with Rhino

Always a valid reason for taking action!

C for Conservative? L for Libertarian? I for Independent? Or INGOer? H for Heavily armed?

rhino shares George Washington's opinion of political parties (i.e. they suck).

 

[rhino]

I mean, who hasn't donned blackface from time to time? Amirite?

I had a giant red smile painted on my face in my starring role in "The Town Clown" in the second grade, circa 1972. Is that close enough? Curiously, it was not a horror theme, but rather portrayed the Town Clown as a sympathetic, humorous character. It was clearly racist.

 

[rhino]

Why would anyone fall for believing anything that comes from the mouths of those that say red hats are racist?

That's a good question.

I think we've been inculcated with the idea that racism is the ultimate sin of all time, so when the accusation is leveled as an attack, the attack is effective due to shame. In most cases, that shame is unwarranted, but it's tough for people to keep the seed of that out of their subconscious when the effort to entrench it there is so prevalent. Because of that, even the most obviously spurious accusations have the desired effect in far too many cases, including the labeling of someone as "alt-right."

 

[printcraft]

I had a giant red smile painted on my face in my starring role in "The Town Clown" in the second grade, circa 1972. Is that close enough? Curiously, it was not a horror theme, but rather portrayed the Town Clown as a sympathetic, humorous character. It was clearly racist.

You can't use the C word, that's MY word.

 

[jamil]

Wikipedia says 2008. NPR says Spencer. Mirriam-Webster says 2009.

I don't think it really matters. What matters is the Left latched onto it, tied it to white supremacy, and ran with it. They saw this "new right" forming... the counter-culture Right... the anti-SJWs... and rather than allow them to form a movement, they took the label and poisoned it.

So now, much like a red hat, it means white supremacy, racism, etc... because that's what they do.

There was an entire meme about "leader of GamerGate", because they don't want you to organize. They named various people "leaders"... which makes no sense. It's an idea. It's a concept. It's not a tangible group.

Well, the alt-right tied themselves to white separatism, but they claimed what they advocate is not supremacy. Okay. Doesn't make it more palatable, but I can concede it to them that they distance themselves from white supremacy. So it does seem it's probably the left that manufactured that connection to white supremacy. (not saying there are not white supremicists, just that the alt right says they reject that).

And, I think I used the term "leaders", but what that means is influencers. The people early on, writing the blogs, posting on reddit, youtube, etcetera. There is a legitimate alt-right, and then there's the term the left throws around at people they disagree with.

But to say they're not a group doesn't ring true with the evidence out there. What would you call the set of people who were on one side of gamer gate? That's a group by any definition, whether they're organized or not. So is the set of people who subscribe to a more culturally/racially based nationalism a group. They named themselves as far as I can tell. There is some conflicting information out there on who coined the term, but the few people claiming it all call themselves alt-right. There's no evidence that the term was invented by the left. I'll take their word for it that they meant it to refer to an alternative right. But I do agree that the left calling everyone to the right of bat**** crazy leftists, "alt-right", makes its meaning less defined.

 

[jamil]

Jamil, I am sorry to say that I read the link you provided in the OP in that thread.

Although there are a few points I can accept.
I am Most DEFINITELY ​NOT Alt Right!

Of course you're not alt-right. That's kinda my whole point about the right, that they at least know when the fringe right goes too far. We can look at what they proclaim, and we can see when they go wrong. And we reject that.

Meanwhile, the people on the left get away with tweeting such crap as, "all white people should just die". No bans. They still have their accounts in good standing. Those tweets are still up. But right-leaning people get banned for far less than that.

On the right, we recognize that if a white person said that kind of stuff about black people, THAT'S RACIST! And we recognize that when a POC says that to white people, THAT'S RACIST TOO! But people on the left like and retweet that stuff because they're okay with it. They apparently can't figure out when the left goes to far. That makes them more dangerous than the alt-right.

 

[Route 45]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-false-report-suspicious-rope-plays-key-role/

 

[Route 45]

Oops...wrong thread!

 

[2A_Tom]

'86, American Indian, not Native American.

 

[Dead Duck]

How!

 

[daddyusmaximus]

There were some tweets referring to assassination going out during the SOTU. Glenn Beck's people caught it. He was there watching people.

Seems like a call to violence to me.

https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/videos/vb.36400348187/354704911785146/?type=2&theater


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/6/donald-trump-jr-condemns-jemele-hill-over-getcho-h/


It's pretty damn disturbing.

 

[2A_Tom]

For those like me that did not understand the reference:
[video=youtube;zHM8lAIFoU4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHM8lAIFoU4[/video]

 

[jamil]

There were some tweets referring to assassination going out during the SOTU. Glenn Beck's people caught it. He was there watching people.

Seems like a call to violence to me.

https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/videos/vb.36400348187/354704911785146/?type=2&theater


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/6/donald-trump-jr-condemns-jemele-hill-over-getcho-h/


It's pretty damn disturbing.

It's a two-edged sword. If we can forgive this because she was just joking, then the people who were just joking about Obama's demise should be offered as much forgiveness. And if we must condemn her for calling for violence against Trump, then we must condemn the people who called for violence against Obama. I like a good edgy joke as much as the next guy, but I'm kinda more siding with the latter than the former. Even joking about violence against the POTUS, regardless of party, is probably a line crossed and something that the more radical people tend to do.

 

[Kutnupe14]

For those like me that did not understand the reference:
[video=youtube;zHM8lAIFoU4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHM8lAIFoU4[/video]

Did you have to look that up to understand the referencer did you already know?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Did you have to look that up to understand the referencer did you already know?

Can't speak for him, but I'd not heard of it until just recently when this came out about Jemele Hill.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I didn't know the reference until I saw others explain it on Twitter.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Can't speak for him, but I'd not heard of it until just recently when this came out about Jemele Hill.

The "get your hand out of my pocket!" has been an ongoing joke at large black social gatherings for a LONG time. Whenever someone says it, people always laugh.

 

[2A_Tom]

It's a two-edged sword. If we can forgive this because she was just joking, then the people who were just joking about Obama's demise should be offered as much forgiveness. And if we must condemn her for calling for violence against Trump, then we must condemn the people who called for violence against Obama. I like a good edgy joke as much as the next guy, but I'm kinda more siding with the latter than the former. Even joking about violence against the POTUS, regardless of party, is probably a line crossed and something that the more radical people tend to do.

Since I never called for ANYONE to be hurt, killed or die, and never condoned anyone who did, I don't get where you get that.

I agreed with Rush Limbaugh when he said "I hope he (Obama) Fails" in reference to his socialist, anti-American agenda.

I opposed his agenda, but I never wished him or his ill.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Since I never called for ANYONE to be hurt, killed or die, and never condoned anyone who did, I don't get where you get that.

I agreed with Rush Limbaugh when he said "I hope he (Obama) Fails" in reference to his socialist, anti-American agenda.

I opposed his agenda, but I never wished him or his ill.

Obama had an anti-American agenda? What's the litmus test for determining what an anti-American agenda is?