Police Kill Man In Drug Raid Gone Wrong (VIDEO)

[Marc]

He did stop, I agree, my mistake. However, please tell me what you do when you are in a batters stance? Could it be reasonable to assume that he is in a postion preparing to hit something?

yea he is in a stance to hit something but a non lethal can reach well beyond the distance of what was in his hands

 

[03mustgt]

if i see a girl standing in a bar across the dance floor and whip my "piece" out, do i have any chance of hitting her in the forehead with it? probly not

so what makes you think that a golf club half the length will reach across a house no matter what "stance" the guy is taking? this was murder!

Do you think he could have cleared that X amount of feet and struck the point officer before the officer could have stopped him?

 

[E5RANGER375]

I disagree. Liberty what would you have done had you been on point?

im not liberty, but I would have STOPPED (since i clearly saw the man and probly had enough intell to safely know he wasnt part of a terrorist cell) yelled and said, POLICE, put the weapon down, we have a search warrant. then if he didnt comply, taze his ass. or if he runs at you, then shoot him, fine.

 

[Benny]

if i see a girl standing in a bar across the dance floor and whip my "piece" out, do i have any chance of hitting her in the forehead with it? probly not

so what makes you think that a golf club half the length will reach across a house no matter what "stance" the guy is taking? this was murder!

 

[misconfig]

Yes, but the officers made it home that night.

I'm appalled by this, you think police are above the rest of us human scum don't you?

Someone kicked his door in, the guy wasn't even within striking distance, gets shot and the police continue to raid his personal property for a substance the government deems "illegal".

This is not freedom, this is not liberty, eff these police.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Do you think he could have cleared that X amount of feet and struck the point officer before the officer could have stopped him?

you dont wanna get into CQB with me buddy. been there done that in real life. dont interject "what ifs" in this. it was a golf club and not a knife. so obviously the guy wasnt premeditated on killing some cops. he thought someone was breaking into his house and grabbed the first thing he found.

 

[03mustgt]

yea he is in a stance to hit something but a non lethal can reach well beyond the distance of what was in his hands

Very true, so you are saying the point officer should have holstered his firearm, drawn a tazer, and then fired it at the individual.

or are you saying he should have holstered his firearm and sprayed the individual?

or are you saying there should have been a non lethal on point?

or are you saying that a person carrying non lethal should have been brought up from the rear to engage the person?

Oh btw you have 1 sec to make that decision.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Do you think he could have cleared that X amount of feet and struck the point officer before the officer could have stopped him?

No. More than unlikely - unrealistic.

Do you think you can clear that distance and hit one of three men with a club, before they can gun you down?

Multiple cops, guns already drawn....

Most of them yelling "drop the weapon" and "get on the ground"

ONE of them, using bad judgement, decided to fire.

 

[E5RANGER375]

I'm appalled by this, you think police are above the rest of us human scum don't you?

Someone kicked his door in, the guy wasn't even within striking distance, gets shot and the police continue to raid his personal property for a substance the government deems "illegal".

This is not freedom, this is not liberty, eff these police.

he was being sarcastic

 

[Marc]

Very true, so you are saying the point officer should have holstered his firearm, drawn a tazer, and then fired it at the individual.

or are you saying he should have holstered his firearm and sprayed the individual?

or are you saying there should have been a non lethal on point?

or are you saying that a person carrying non lethal should have been brought up from the rear to engage the person?

Oh btw you have 1 sec to make that decision.

on point while yelling commands not "search warrent"

 

[03mustgt]

you dont wanna get into CQB with me buddy. been there done that in real life. dont interject "what ifs" in this. it was a golf club and not a knife. so obviously the guy wasnt premeditated on killing some cops. he thought someone was breaking into his house and grabbed the first thing he found.

E5, feels good to be an internet tough guy doesnt it? I am just trying to state this officer had less than a second to make a tough decision based on the information he had. That is all. Calling him a premeditated murderer is obviously a farce as the prosecutor of that jurisdiction agrees with me.

 

[Benny]

Holy hell, my comments were directed towards the member who wished drug addicts would shoot at police. You then quoted me and grumbled about the ANTI LEO comment. Thus I stated, maybe not so clearly, Would you, Benny, think wishing drug users to shoot at police to be considered good training since you obviously thought it was not anti leo

You said Lachicon's(sp?) comments were very anti-LEO and I just pointed out that that video was just as much if not MORE anti-Non LEO than his comments.

I said nothing about his comments NOT being anti-LEO.

But to answer your question...I have a bad taste in my mouth from that video, but no, I don't wish people would start shooting back when they don't have to. In that video, I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't wish that that guy had a gun and a clear shot on the murderer.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Oh btw you have 1 sec to make that decision.

you keep ignoring the fact that if they would have STOPPED advancing they would have had more time to assess the situation. it doesnt have to be text book 100% of the time. experienced people know this. you can, allow people to remain alive sometimes

 

[03mustgt]

No. More than unlikely - unrealistic.

Do you think you can clear that distance and hit one of three men with a club, before they can gun you down?

Multiple cops, guns already drawn....

Most of them yelling "drop the weapon" and "get on the ground"

ONE of them, using bad judgement, decided to fire.

I know I can.

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

So he was in a batter's stance...he had a golf club and didn't yell FORE.

The gang came busting in with helmets and vests and all their gear on. I think they could have waited for him to put down his club.

 

[misconfig]

he was being sarcastic

 

[03mustgt]

you keep ignoring the fact that if they would have STOPPED advancing they would have had more time to assess the situation. it doesnt have to be text book 100% of the time. experienced people know this. you can, allow people to remain alive sometimes

If you have ever done CQB then you know that you want to clear a house as quickly as possible. You do not want to stand in the living room for minutes trying to talk someone down.

 

[E5RANGER375]

E5, feels good to be an internet tough guy doesnt it? I am just trying to state this officer had less than a second to make a tough decision based on the information he had. That is all. Calling him a premeditated murderer is obviously a farce as the prosecutor of that jurisdiction agrees with me.

yeah the prosecutor who gets paid by the same system that pays the cops, and probly knows all of them personally. i really trust what he has to say

im not being a internet tough guy. it just happens to be the internet where im schooling you at.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

I know I can.

How far do you estimate that distance, twelve feet? You think you can make it twelve feet, and hit someone with a golf club, before three people with guns already drawn on you can drop you?

 

[Benny]

I'm appalled by this, you think police are above the rest of us human scum don't you?

Someone kicked his door in, the guy wasn't even within striking distance, gets shot and the police continue to raid his personal property for a substance the government deems "illegal".

This is not freedom, this is not liberty, eff these police.

LOL, he was totally being facetious.

E5, feels good to be an internet tough guy doesnt it? I am just trying to state this officer had less than a second to make a tough decision based on the information he had. That is all. Calling him a premeditated murderer is obviously a farce as the prosecutor of that jurisdiction agrees with me.

So E5 incorporating real life experience into his argument is considered being an internet tough guy?