Organizing an OC event in Indy! Stand up for your Rights!

[ATF Consumer]

SE,
I WILL be at the "walk", and possibly at the next meeting if able. I can bring a set of two-way radios for use on the route.
I can understand the desire to keep this purely about RKBA, but I would PERSONALLY like to see an American flag with us!
Public Servant, whoever decided your suggestions were attempted sabotage must be a troll! Your posts alone, taken in context, reveal you to be an intelligent and honorable individual. Please don't take offense at the ramblings of unknowns. It's beneath you to entertain their complaints.
Thank you for your service!

I don't think they were trolls...from what I understand, they questioned the area in which was suggested for the route. It would lead right through an area deemed not so safe for the walk and some were afraid of a "drive-by". I understand that concern...I mean, I wouldn't want to be walking down through there at night, that's for darn sure.

 

[SavageEagle]

I don't think they were trolls...from what I understand, they questioned the area in which was suggested for the route. It would lead right through an area deemed not so safe for the walk and some were afraid of a "drive-by". I understand that concern...I mean, I wouldn't want to be walking down through there at night, that's for darn sure.

Actually, although the area suggested is a gang neighborhood, We most likely would have had no issues. Most likely. But that wasn't MY or anyone else's quabble with the suggested route. At least, not at the meeting today. The problem was two things. One, the day of the 1500 is just too soon. Two, the walk through bad neighborhoods isn't the problem. Actually, It might do good for those people to see us out there and showing them what rights they have. No, the problem was also the length of the route. That's just one heck of a walk. It'd probably take a group our size to walk that long way at least 2-4 hours. You know how many stop lights there are that we'll have to walk through no matter which way we go? Chances are we won't have the luxury of a police escort so I wouldn't count on traffic stopping for us to pass.

 

[ATF Consumer]

I was speaking with my conservative neighbor whom also carries most of the time...I was telling him about this "Walk" and he said "oh, so you can try to get Open carry legal?" I laughed and explained that open carry already is legal, but most people aren't aware of it, just as he.

 

[SavageEagle]

I owe you some rep for educating!

 

[Tommy2Tone]

I want to be involved and the weekend looks like it will work. I may be able to be a drive or fill another role if need be.

And my car does have an NRA front license plat and the INGO stickers on the side windows...

 

[Paco Bedejo]

SE...apparently someone thought by suggesting that you tie your peaceful march in with the 1500 and the route I suggested...they feel I was attempting to sabotage the plans. This was not the case.

I merely suggested what I thought was the best way to get the biggest bang for your buck. Several other agreed. But because my intentions were questioned...I'll retract those suggestions and not bother those that apparently know best. My apologies if my suggestion was out of line.

Good luck with your march. Be safe and be careful.

TBH Public Servant, I initially took your suggestion to be sarcasm. But, then I realized not everyone's a fat-arse like me & that it would actually be a good idea if we were all in good shape. However, it would take too long for some of us to walk 4.6 miles...unfortunately. You're lookin' at about 90 minutes for me, and it's possible that some might need upwards of 2 hours.

Savage, was anything discussed regarding how long we'll stay at the Circle, what we'll do there, and whether we're walking or riding back to the parking area?

 

[hotfarmboy1]

Did you realize you set this on the same day as NFA day? Oh well that works I'll be down at NFA day and can just stop and do this on the way back if the timing works out good.

 

[SavageEagle]

TBH Public Servant, I initially took your suggestion to be sarcasm. But, then I realized not everyone's a fat-arse like me & that it would actually be a good idea if we were all in good shape. However, it would take too long for some of us to walk 4.6 miles...unfortunately. You're lookin' at about 90 minutes for me, and it's possible that some might need upwards of 2 hours.

Savage, was anything discussed regarding how long we'll stay at the Circle, what we'll do there, and whether we're walking or riding back to the parking area?

The route is not set. It was discussed, but not set.

Also keep in mind the route is the one thing that will NOT be post on the board. This will be kept private.

 

[shooter521]

Did you realize you set this on the same day as NFA day? Oh well that works I'll be down at NFA day and can just stop and do this on the way back if the timing works out good.

FTR, the NFA Day festivities will commence about 11:30 and will run through dinnertime. If you want to leave early to attend the walk, that would certainly be an option (and would probably set some kind of record for meeting the most INGOers in a single day ).

EVENT ORGANIZERS:
Now that you have selected a date, you should probably add your event to the INGO Calendar.

This is me being constructive.

 

[4sarge]

FTR, the NFA Day festivities will commence about 11:30 and will run through dinnertime. If you want to leave early to attend the walk, that would certainly be an option (and would probably set some kind of record for meeting the most INGOers in a single day ).

EVENT ORGANIZERS:
Now that you have selected a date, you should probably add your event to the INGO Calendar.

This is me being constructive.

Thanks from me, anyways

 

[AndersonIN]

For those of you undecided on if you will attend the WALK! Just read this and thought it fitting!

"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves."
Winston Churchill

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

 

[Jack Ryan]

I don't think they were trolls...from what I understand, they questioned the area in which was suggested for the route. It would lead right through an area deemed not so safe for the walk and some were afraid of a "drive-by". I understand that concern...I mean, I wouldn't want to be walking down through there at night, that's for darn sure.

Not safe? NOT SAFE? Not safe for pistal packing MMA enthusiasts strapped with their best barbeque guns on their hips, AKs, ARs, and shotguns on their shoulder and fully loaded? ROTFL, that's standing up for your rights for sure.

Just read the post right above this one and tell me you can't see the joke of this thread. Posts full of ridiculing any one who isn't in to this with both feet and then suddenly a neighborhood isn't "safe" enough. Now that's funny.

 

[dburkhead]

Walk/March/Parade/Whatever

IIUC, the event is now being called a "walk" in an attempt to avoid any confusion with anything requiring a Parade permit.

I would like to suggest considering the possibility that TPTB may decide to call it a "parade" anyway and ask/demand that we disperse or risk citation/arrest.

If that happens, my advice would be to disperse as ordered, but to do so in groups of half a dozen or so. Ideally, there would be at least one camera and one relatively articulate "designated spokesman" for each group. That way we would have someone who can run interference with the press and someone who can document anyone attempting to cause an incident with the group.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

If that happens, my advice would be to disperse as ordered, but to do so in groups of half a dozen or so. Ideally, there would be at least one camera and one relatively articulate "designated spokesman" for each group. That way we would have someone who can run interference with the press and someone who can document anyone attempting to cause an incident with the group.

I'm pretty sure that's the plan now . Again this event is still in the planning phase and details are still being worked out .

Every option is being discussed to make sure this is as safe and peaceful as possible .

 

[SavageEagle]

FTR, the NFA Day festivities will commence about 11:30 and will run through dinnertime. If you want to leave early to attend the walk, that would certainly be an option (and would probably set some kind of record for meeting the most INGOers in a single day ).

EVENT ORGANIZERS:
Now that you have selected a date, you should probably add your event to the INGO Calendar.

This is me being constructive.

Thanks for the idea. I hadn't looked at the calendar in months so i didn't think of it! Event added. Thanks again!

Thanks from me, anyways

? Excuse my confusion as my mind is spinning a bit. Does this mean you'll attend now?

For those of you undecided on if you will attend the WALK! Just read this and thought it fitting!

"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves."
Winston Churchill

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Hells yes! And from a Brit no less.

Not safe? NOT SAFE? Not safe for pistal packing MMA enthusiasts strapped with their best barbeque guns on their hips, AKs, ARs, and shotguns on their shoulder and fully loaded? ROTFL, that's standing up for your rights for sure.

Just read the post right above this one and tell me you can't see the joke of this thread. Posts full of ridiculing any one who isn't in to this with both feet and then suddenly a neighborhood isn't "safe" enough. Now that's funny.

On reason I'm not so worried about the "safeness" of a neighborhood. I do think that a bunch of gang members seeing a bunch of "rednecks with guns" walking through their neighborhood could provoke them to verbally attack the group. This could be seen as a threat to someone. Someone could get scared... You see where I'm going with this? It's not about safety so much as it is making sure this goes off without issues. This will be a first for INDIANA and most states. We want this to go smoothly so that this can happen again, maybe on a larger scale.

IIUC, the event is now being called a "walk" in an attempt to avoid any confusion with anything requiring a Parade permit.

I would like to suggest considering the possibility that TPTB may decide to call it a "parade" anyway and ask/demand that we disperse or risk citation/arrest.

If that happens, my advice would be to disperse as ordered, but to do so in groups of half a dozen or so. Ideally, there would be at least one camera and one relatively articulate "designated spokesman" for each group. That way we would have someone who can run interference with the press and someone who can document anyone attempting to cause an incident with the group.

Chances are we have sufficent evidence and planning to make sure this is NOT considered a parade.

The ordaninces are very clear what considers a parade and a permit. As long as we adhear to these rules we will not be required to disperse. This is why we are having an initial meeting with IMPD to clear up any confusion and keep them in the loop. We want to work with IMPD on this as closely as possible to avoid any issues with them and anyone else.

 

[MoparMan]

Has this ever been done anywhere? If so, maybe you could use that as an example.

 

[ATF Consumer]

Not safe? NOT SAFE? Not safe for pistal packing MMA enthusiasts strapped with their best barbeque guns on their hips, AKs, ARs, and shotguns on their shoulder and fully loaded? ROTFL, that's standing up for your rights for sure.

Just read the post right above this one and tell me you can't see the joke of this thread. Posts full of ridiculing any one who isn't in to this with both feet and then suddenly a neighborhood isn't "safe" enough. Now that's funny.

So you are telling me that you would feel safe walking through that neighborhood...with or without a firearm?

Just because we would all be carrying, still does not remove the fact that gangs bangers would be firing the first shots...and you would be comfortable with that?

 

[BloodEclipse]

IIUC, the event is now being called a "walk" in an attempt to avoid any confusion with anything requiring a Parade permit.

I would like to suggest considering the possibility that TPTB may decide to call it a "parade" anyway and ask/demand that we disperse or risk citation/arrest.

If that happens, my advice would be to disperse as ordered, but to do so in groups of half a dozen or so. Ideally, there would be at least one camera and one relatively articulate "designated spokesman" for each group. That way we would have someone who can run interference with the press and someone who can document anyone attempting to cause an incident with the group.

Maybe we stay in groups of 10 or so a block apart from one another. If we are not all massed up into one group it would be harder to call us a parade I think. Likewise I don't see how having a few American Flags, Gadsden Flags, or even some Indiana Flags being carried by participates who are not carrying would make us a parade if our numbers stay under the required amount.

 

[4sarge]

Maybe we stay in groups of 10 or so a block apart from one another. If we are not all massed up into one group it would be harder to call us a parade I think. Likewise I don't see how having a few American Flags, Gadsden Flags, or even some Indiana Flags being carried by participates who are not carrying would make us a parade if our numbers stay under the required amount.

Does anyone know if their is a specific number and if so, what is that number ?

Thanks

 

[SavageEagle]

Has this ever been done anywhere? If so, maybe you could use that as an example.

Yes, Ohio. And we're working with a guy who organized it and taking a lot of advice from him. He's also Ex-LEO with a lot of time under his belt.

So you are telling me that you would feel safe walking through that neighborhood...with or without a firearm?

Just because we would all be carrying, still does not remove the fact that gangs bangers would be firing the first shots...and you would be comfortable with that?

I would. I would have no problem if I'm armed. Unarmed, I'd need to bring a friend...

Does anyone know if their is a specific number and if so, what is that number ?

Thanks

No specific number yet. We'll know closer to time. It's looking like about 30-50 depending on how many people confirm yes.