Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

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    You didn't watch the complete video did you? Agent Pat when to the rear and stayed in the rear the whole time. She came up from Trumps right and hunkered down behind the pile. Then the other agents helped Trump off the stage then Agent Pat followed behind then began sweeping the crowd with her service weapon.
    Perhaps your talking of a different agent... or a differnt point in time... this one is on top of Trump as the last shots ring out... you can see her head pop up to the left below the lecturn.

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    And again from behind.
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    Lots went wrong that day... one thing went right... four agents used their bodies as shields... instantly... and until the "shooter down" all clear... two were female.

    Odd that some here have such a problem crediting them for doing THAT part of the job right. Hmmm...
     

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    If this is like any previous governmental foul-ups, we can expect hearings, investigations, and commissions that will actually serve to hide the official errors or even malicious intent by some in the government. That’s what government does no matter who is in office: protect itself from actual scrutiny and resist being exposed as incompetent or worse.



    But what if there was a genuine investigation that actually revealed the truth about what happened at the Trump rally over the weekend? Could we rely on the mainstream media to even report it? This is the same media that, after Trump was clearly shot on live television, reported “Trump escorted away after loud noises at PA rally.” (Washington Post). And “Secret Service rushes Trump offstage after he falls at rally.” (CNN).
     

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    When the media first reported the identity of the shooter, they said that the serial # of the rifle was traced back to his father, which led them to social media posts/photos that matched up.

    If the building in question couldn't be secured, due to a lack of manpower, then SS should have requested the staging company to erect a scrim to block the sight lines to the stage. They carry a ton of that material, and it can be easily done in less than 1 hour, at minimal cost (less than $300). Can't shoot what you can't see.

    Also, for the earlier posters suggesting a lack of skill on the shooters part, consider this: The shooter triple tapped without adjusting his point of aim, and all three rounds followed a trajectory within millimeters of one another.
    Some ballpark figures to make a point....sound travels 1120 fps at sea level (temperature and humidity levels can push that number up or down). It was hot and humid that day so it would travel slower.
    At a range of 135 yards (405ft) the sound took .385 seconds to register on the podium mics ( the first pops heard on the video we've all seen).
    Assuming the ammo was 55gr ball, a velocity of 3000~3200fps is possible, resulting in a travel time of approx .135 seconds.
    The duration was about .4 seconds ( not Jerry Miculek territory, but respectable nonetheless.
    The bullets arrive between .135 and .535 seconds, the sound arrives between .385 and .785 seconds. So when you hear the first pop, the second round (and possibly the third) already passed by Trump.
    What I see is the sound of a supersonic bullet passing within millimeters of Trump's ear caused enough pain or alarm to make him reach for his ear. While his hand was in motion the second round passed by, and the third followed, passing between his hand and ear, striking the ear just before he grabbed at it.
    The appearance of spray (pink mist...a minimal amount, thank God) would seem to confirm this. If Trump reacted faster he would have lost his hand. I don't yet know what type of sights/optic was used, but, for comparison, if I stood 135 yards away from you, and made an "OK" sign with my hand, and you could put three rounds thru that circle without hitting me, in less than half a second....I would not consider you to be an "unskilled" shooter.
    In this case the angles, and Trump's fortuitous head movement, averted a real tragedy (other victims notwithstanding).
    Just food for thought, to point out how lucky we (generally) and D.J. Trump (specifically) got on this occasion.

    And kudos to the SS countersniper for threading a fine shot thru a huge tree at a partially obscured target.
     

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    How did the agents in the building not here him on the roof?

    Maybe I missed that.
    My thought when I read there were officers inside the building. Someone clambering around on an industrial manufacturing building's corrugated steel roof makes a racket. Heavy rainfall makes one. Unless there is significant ambient noise from equipment inside the building, you'd definitely hear it.
     

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    Wow, this (alleged) chick from that link is freaking nuts.

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    Lea DeLaria is a self-described "Big Butch Dyke" (her words, not mine) stand-up comedienne, and was one of the Netflix "Orange is the New Black" main characters. I've seen short clips of her outrageous stand-up jokes. This is exactly what I would have expected from her.
     
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