OC Black Friday Meet and Lunch 11/26/10 Discussion Thread

[ATF Consumer]

Que I thank you and the other members of INGO for the support

 

[Joe Williams]

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So, please, next time ask if I am in support of something instead of assuming.

I read your poll, and the way you worded your first post in it.

 

[sj kahr k40]

I'm going to have to thank Joanna for making this event bigger.

 

[jmildoc]

i thank you for thanking joanna for making this event bigger.

 

[dom1104]

Guys, I really think we should the stop the infighting.

Lets try to make this thing go off in a positive way, its.... pretty much going to happen lets try to work toghether to make it happen "the right way", and turn around what SO FAR... sounds like a PR disaster for gun owners in Indy.

Nitpicking about who said what in what poll, and which Mod is on board with the OC agenda is.. fruitless.

 

[sj kahr k40]

I just thanked Joanna on facebook

 

[infidel]

I'm going to have to thank Joanna for making this event bigger.

i thank you for thanking joanna for making this event bigger.

I would like to thank jmildoc for thanking sj kahr 40 for thanking Joanna for making this event bigger.

 

[bwframe]

I didn't think we needed one, are you volunteering

I'm not qualified to to that job sir. The problem is, I see no one posting here who appears to be qualified either.

The fact that you don't think you needed one is distressing. I fear that you are not prepared for this undertaking.

 

[esrice]

but to sit back and basically remain neutral...what does that tell you?

INGO does not now, nor has ever, had a political agenda. INGO is a place for Indiana Gun Owners of all kinds to gather. INGO provides the venue, you provide the content.

If INGO wanted to take sides on the OC issue, we would've called the site "IndianaOpenCarry.com".

 

[Joe Williams]

Guys, I really think we should the stop the infighting.

Lets try to make this thing go off in a positive way, its.... pretty much going to happen lets try to work toghether to make it happen "the right way", and turn around what SO FAR... sounds like a PR disaster for gun owners in Indy.

Nitpicking about who said what in what poll, and which Mod is on board with the OC agenda is.. fruitless.

PR disaster? Who called the press and tried to make OC'ers look bad, trying to torpedo the event, who ambushed the organizers with a couple hours to respond? Hint, it wasn't the Indy Gardening Club. It was a gun owner, someone from one of these sites.

As Mike Hilton so graphically demonstrated, there are people here who regard their fellow gun owners with the same contempt as the Brady Bunch does, and who do not support a drive to protect and regain our rights. It is a mistake to assume that merely because someone is a member of this site or a gun owner, maybe even one you've shot with before, that they are our friend, or a friend of our rights.

 

[sj kahr k40]

INGO does not now, nor has ever, had a political agenda. INGO is a place for Indiana Gun Owners of all kinds to gather. INGO provides the venue, you provide the content.

If INGO wanted to take sides on the OC issue, we would've called the site "IndianaConcealedCarry.com".

FIFY

 

[SavageEagle]

INGO does not now, nor has ever, had a political agenda. INGO is a place for Indiana Gun Owners of all kinds to gather. INGO provides the venue, you provide the content.

If INGO wanted to take sides on the OC issue, we would've called the site "IndianaOpenCarry.com".

It's not about OC or CC. I don't understand why everyone's twisting this to their personal agendas. It's about public education. It's about LE education. And maybe, some time down the road, a political agenda. But right now it's about education. Not someone's personal agenda.

If you don't support the 2A in general, why start a gun site? And if you do, why WOULDN'T you get behind us?

 

[Que]

I read your poll, and the way you worded your first post in it.

Joe, feel free to go to that thread and comment, and I will happily address your concern, there.

 

[sj kahr k40]

I'm not qualified to to that job sir. The problem is, I see no one posting here who appears to be qualified either.

The fact that you don't think you needed one is distressing. I fear that you are not prepared for this undertaking.

originally I thought we might get 20 people and no media coverage so a media consultant didn't seem needed now I'm not sure

 

[SavageEagle]

Also, someone called the reporter sometime in the last couple days to have allowed them time to interview and contact all the people they did.

 

[ATF Consumer]

INGO does not now, nor has ever, had a political agenda. INGO is a place for Indiana Gun Owners of all kinds to gather. INGO provides the venue, you provide the content.

If INGO wanted to take sides on the OC issue, we would've called the site "IndianaOpenCarry.com".

Informing the citizenry of their constitutional rights is not a political agenda...it is a constitutional rights agenda

 

[SavageEagle]

originally I thought we might get 20 people and no media coverage so a media consultant didn't seem needed now I'm not sure

I believe he was just referring to a media spokesman. Someone to speak for the group. I believe we can all speak for ourselves and the movement pretty well.

I'd like to know why you (bwframe) don't think anyone here is qualified to do so? It's not like they're air an entire interview. Just pieces and parts that fit their agenda. And, like tonight, if nothing does fit their agenda, they'll just insert their own. I thought that was pretty well obvious.

 

[Roadie]

I just thanked Joanna on facebook

That was you?

 

[sj kahr k40]

That was you?

yep

 

[bwframe]

originally I thought we might get 20 people and no media coverage so a media consultant didn't seem needed now I'm not sure

Please understand, I mean no disrespect.
However, this is exactly what I'm talking about. How could you plan an event, guaranteed to get you attention, on the busiest shopping day of the year and not plan for media attention?