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[jedi]

Happy Christmass Eve!

For Kitty & t_star (I think that is who said she does not eat bacon but other meats).

BTW even

-Jedi

 

[NapalmFTW]

DON'T TAKE US41 either. . . I was in Schererville and Highland and 41 is a parking lot both ways north of US30. South of US 30 all the way to US 231 41 is slow but moving.

That was due to a two car head on smash... in the middle (suicide) lane of the bridge at Hartsdale right on top of the bridge. Idiots. Who does that?

Dave(grave): I really, really want to get into Archery (it's in my blood. I'm English, French, Scots and Irish with some Jew thrown in there for good measure). If I get myself kitted out with a bow we'll find some land to practice on once one of us knows the ropes

In other news... I am at a loose end on Christmas Day (tomorrow) until around 4pm. Is there anything worthwhile (worthy) I can volunteer for? It beats (pardon the pun) sitting around wanking over YouPorn

Kinda.

I'm thinking a soup kitchen or something, but they wouldn't just let someone turn up on the day I bet.

Failing that I'll go drive somewhere secluded and get the radios out and listen to some SATCOM traffic. Oh what a fun life I lead.

 

[t_star]

For Kitty & t_star (I think that is who said she does not eat bacon but other meats).

BTW even

-Jedi

Yep, I said it. I won't eat bacon. Gimme steak, cheeseburgers, brats (especially the way I do them! darkkevin hated brats before he met me! ), chicken, porkchops...almost anything but bacon!

And wtf kinda santa do YOU know? HUH? Weirdo.

Oh, I haz sumfin for you.

 

[jedi]

And wtf kinda santa do YOU know? HUH? Weirdo.

Well I asked Santa 4 1 of these

But I see that she might be busy doing videos for NapalmFTW on YouPorn,

 

[t_star]

Well I asked Santa 4 1 of these

But I see that she might be busy doing videos for NapalmFTW on YouPorn,

Well a girls gotta get paid!

 

[jedi]

Well a girls gotta get paid!

 

[lonehoosier]

Merry Christmas to everyone. Santa has been very good tO me and my family. I hope the same goes for you and your family too.

 

[NapalmFTW]

Well I asked Santa 4 1 of these

But I see that she might be busy doing videos for NapalmFTW on YouPorn,

I uh... need a moment... cleanup in aisle three please nurse.

Decided to say sod it (British expression) to the needy and homeless today and go and play radio instead. If you see a dude with an antenna pointed at the sky and wearing a tin foil hat its me. I'll talk about HAARP and THE MAN and how they're all out to get us... dude.

 

[Davegrave]

Dave(grave): I really, really want to get into Archery (it's in my blood. I'm English, French, Scots and Irish with some Jew thrown in there for good measure). If I get myself kitted out with a bow we'll find some land to practice on once one of us knows the ropes

The grade school parking lot near my house seems to have plenty of room. I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

some Jew thrown in there for good measure

Also, taken out of context (as I've purposefully done here) this quote makes you sound like a maniac.

 

[NapalmFTW]

The grade school parking lot near my house seems to have plenty of room. I'm sure they wouldn't mind.


Also, taken out of context (as I've purposefully done here) this quote makes you sound like a maniac.

LMFAO

Best laugh I've had all year!

 

[melensdad]

Dave(grave): I really, really want to get into Archery (it's in my blood. I'm English, French, Scots and Irish with some Jew thrown in there for good measure). If I get myself kitted out with a bow we'll find some land to practice on once one of us knows the ropes

I am an admitted idiot when it comes to archery. Its literally been 40 years since I picked up a bow, but I played with my daughter's new equipment yesterday. However, my ignorance has been supplemented by a lot of research for beginners. One of my archery mentors currently holds 3 worlds records, he recommended brand/type of bow. Another of my mentors is my brother in law, who is too modest but is a target shooter. The final mentor is the father of a friend of my daughter who is an avid traditional archer, draws a 100# bow and is in his 70s! All use recurve bows and both consider compound bows to be 'cheater' bows. I've also spent a reasonable amount of time sitting and talking to the guys at the archery shop trying to learn. Clearly I am a newbie with little experience and a bit of knowledge.

As for WHERE to shoot, if you have a back yard you have a place to shoot. Seriously you do not need a lot of space to get started. A good starting distance is going to be about 30 to 40 feet away from the target.

As for WHAT to shoot, you can buy a target bag at Cabelas for $30 (and up) that will stop your arrows.

As for BOWS, you can get a PSE OPTIMA for under $200 at the local shops. The other bow that came highly recommended is the SAMIK SAGE and it can be had for roughly $150. We now have one of each. If you are a well built strong guy, buy it in a 30# draw weight. If you want to take up the sport with your wife, buy it in a 25# draw weight. The LIGHTER THE BETTER is the one thing that seems to be the universal recommendation!!! Both of the above bows are MODULAR and the limbs can be replaced with heavier draw weights. So as your form improves and your strength increases then you can move up in draw weight (typically in 5# increments) by simply replacing the limbs.

As for ARROWS, you can start out with cheap or expensive. I bought some of each. Got some Easton arrows at about $60 a dozen, got some custom carbon fiber arrows at double that price. Not sure there is a real difference for a beginner. Buy the CORRECT ARROW FOR YOUR DRAW WEIGHT. Arrows are sold the same way that ammo is sold. And arrows are designed with different weights, stiffnesses, etc and each is specifically tuned to the draw weight of your bow. If you have a 25# or 30# bow you get arrows designed for that weight range. If you have a 45# or 50# bow then get arrows for that draw weight range.

OTHER STUFF needed would include an arm guard, these protect your arm from the bow string, costs are roughly $8 to $50 depending on make, model, etc. Simple leather or plastic guards with elastic cord on the low end of the price range, semi-custom designs on nicely finished leather at the high end. A quiver to hold your arrows comes in very handy. There are the type that sling over your shoulder and the type that attach to your belt. Take your pick. Prices from about $20 to $250, depending on materials, details, etc. A shooting glove (3 finger glove) rounds out the basics, it protects the 3 fingers you use to hold the string, figure about $10 for one of those.​

The logic for a LOW DRAW WEIGHT is very simple. Most of us think we are big strong men. Most of us have an inflated opinion of ourselves. We have little to no skills and think we can self teach ourselves anything. That said, if you start out with a 35# to 50# bow then you are simply going to cause yourself grief. You have no skill and you will be fighting the draw weight. With a traditional bow you are holding the full draw weight while you are trying to line up to the target, that heavy draw weight is working against you and creating fatigue. After working with my daughter's 25# bows yesterday I'd say that I would not want to start with a heavier draw weight for myself. Realize that your first draw weight is one that you may use for 6 months or a year as you work on your skills. This is one reason why the above two bows can be purchased with replaceable limbs. There are many other brands that offer replaceable limbs too. Just start out light and work your way up.

My personal observation after playing yesterday afternoon, during 2 different archery sessions, is that it is harder than it looks! Start out close to the target. I did really well shooting at 30', hitting the target 100% of the time but when I moved back to roughly 50' then my accuracy dropped substantially. Literally 50% of my arrows missed the entire target bag. Clearly I need help!!!

So that is my bit of advice, mostly stolen from those who helped me buy the equipment that no longer sits under the Christmas tree.

Link to Samick Sage bow => http://samicksports.com/h_sage.html
Link to PSE Optima bow => http://www.pse-archery.com/products...45.5.1.1.16352.55037.1003127.0.0#.Tvh1UZi1nzI

 

[lonehoosier]

River view park in lake station has an archey range. I have not been there but I hear it is really nice. It right off of 80/94 exit 15A RT 51 south just past central on the right/east side of the road. It is in the northeast corner of the park.

 

[lonehoosier]

Melensdad thanks for the review. My son over the summer got to shoot archery for cub scouts and he really like it. He is seven. What would you recumind for him.

 

[melensdad]

Melensdad thanks for the review. My son over the summer got to shoot archery for cub scouts and he really like it. He is seven. What would you recumind for him.

Here is what I learned while doing my research. Buy modular, buy light draw weight. I was shopping for a bow for a 17 year old girl who is 5'8" tall and buying a bow is based on several things including HEIGHT of the person using the bow.

But I'm not sure the above 'rule' would apply to a 7 year old? The reason I say that is simple, the bows I looked at for my daughter are suitable for adolescents through full grown adults. A 7 year old is really another animal. The size of a 10 to 13 year old is often double the size/weight of a 7 year old. The size of a 15 year old is typically only modestly larger than a 12/13 year old. The size of a 17 year old is typically only modestly larger than a 15 year old.

There is a school program that has a bow they recommend for schools. Its the National Archery in Schools Program. LINK => https://archeryintheschools.org/activea.asp

What I can tell you that I do know, is that PSE has several bows that are aimed at the youth market. I would strongly suggest you look over the PSE website at their youth bows. Then after you get some information, go to a real archery shop. A good place to go is ON TARGET ARCHERY in Steger, IL (1 block south of Sauk Trail on State Street, about 5 miles west of the IN/IL state line). LINK => http://ontargetarchery.org/Home_Page.php

 

[lonehoosier]

Thanks for the link. I work right down from that place I will have to check it out.

 

[jedi]

As for WHERE to shoot, if you have a back yard you have a place to shoot. Seriously you do not need a lot of space to get started. A good starting distance is going to be about 30 to 40 feet away from the target.

Non Lake County Red Neck folks please ignore our ugly step cousin's comments there. At least if you live in Griffith it's a NO-NO to fire a bow & arrow unless you have a lot of space.

Griffith Code
SOURCE:
Municode - Search

Sec. 46-28. - Firearms.
(a)
No persons shall fire or discharge any gun, pistol, or other firearms, or any other weapon operated by means of any explosive charge or by springs or air power, or other means, or any other device having force directed by the user thereof within the town, except upon premises used by a duly licensed or approved shooting gallery, gun or rifle club, or archery range, or any program of organized training or practice in the use of firearms or other weapons approved and supervised by the chief of police, or such officer or other person as the chief of police shall appoint for such purpose. However, it shall not be unlawful to fire or shoot a bow and arrow, so long as the use thereof is restricted to areas at least 1,000 feet distance from any building whether occupied or unoccupied or within 1,000 feet distance of any public street, alley, or highway.
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I would imagine the other cities and towns in the "civilized, drug/gang infested war zone" also have a similar ban.

You got to protect the drug-dealer/gang member's right you know. Plus how is the .gov suppose to triangulate your shoot arrow to arrest you.

 

[melensdad]

However, it shall not be unlawful to fire or shoot a bow and arrow, so long as the use thereof is restricted to areas at least 1,000 feet distance from any building whether occupied or unoccupied or within 1,000 feet distance of any public street, alley, or highway.

Is there any spot in the entire town of Griffith that is not within 1000 feet of a building or road? Seriously that is idiotic.

Still, I know of people who shoot bows in their back yards in more urban environs than the backward burg of Griffith, Indiana. Perhaps they are in violation of their city code? Perhaps they just fly under the radar and don't push their luck in other ways.

I realize an arrow will fly beyond the property line, but if you have a privacy fence, set up a modest backstop, and use an arrow stopping target then I can't see how the neighbors would have an issue with archery practice in the back yard . . . regardless of what the law in your town states.

 

[jedi]

Is there any spot in the entire town of Griffith that is not within 1000 feet of a building or road? Seriously that is idiotic.

Still, I know of people who shoot bows in their back yards in more urban environs than the backward burg of Griffith, Indiana. Perhaps they are in violation of their city code? Perhaps they just fly under the radar and don't push their luck in other ways.

I realize an arrow will fly beyond the property line, but if you have a privacy fence, set up a modest backstop, and use an arrow stopping target then I can't see how the neighbors would have an issue with archery practice in the back yard . . . regardless of what the law in your town states.

I think you can shoot bow/arrow here in Griffith
Izaak Walton League
1532 E Main St
Griffith IN 46323
Outdoor rifle/handgun range; .22LR rifle Only
Outdoor trap area
FOR MEMBERS ONLY
Open to the public for trap every THRS night; small fee involved.

As for where else in Griffith no idea & yes I agree you "could" be safe within your own yard but I'm sure the crappy old lady next door who has nothing better to do then call the cops and city workers will RAT you out asap!



-Jedi

 

[melensdad]

My son over the summer got to shoot archery for cub scouts and he really like it. He is seven. What would you recumind for him.

OK, got word back from "the experts" that I rely on for help in all things archery. There are "TOY" bows and there are "REAL" bows. Assuming you want to get your son started in archery with a REAL bow . . .

Here are links to the Samick 'beginner' bows that would help you out, the riser (center portion) is universal and will fit any of the limb lengths. Buy the longest riser you can that is practical for your sone, then adjust the total length of the bow to your son by buying shorter limbs, as he grows get longer limbs and reuse the center riser. The limbs (top and bottom parts) are available in several lengths to accommodate different height shooters, and also available in some very light draw weights to accommodate younger shooters.

Samick Mind 10 Bow => Samick Sports - MIND 10 recurve
Samick Polaris Bow => http://samicksports.com/beginner_polaris.html]Samick Sports - POLARIS recurve

Its very likely this would be a special order bow from any shop. PSE also makes some bows that would likely be suitable too. Again, its also likely they would be special order.

 

[lonehoosier]

Thank melensdad. I am hopping to take my son to On Target on Saturday. The web sit says they have a youth starter class for $6.00 I think we will go from there.