Mueller report delivered

[KittySlayer]

Any word on how many pages the Mueller report is?

Mueller’s crew was pretty much leak free. Wonder how long until some swamp crawler starts leaking now that the report has left his office.

 

[jamil]

I think it was in the report that Mueller’s investigation wasn’t impeded in any way. The AG has an obligation to report any such issue to Congress if it was. There really is nothing to hang an obstruction charge on.

Mueller’s investigation wasn’t impeaded. But the deranged people think that Trump firing Comey was obstruction. I’m just saying, given that there isn’t any evidence a crime actually happened, that wasn’t obstruction. Furthermore, it now requires more assumptions to think Trump fired Comey for any other reason than what he said. He fired Comey because Comey wouldn’t say the words Trump wanted him to say publicly. That’s not obstruction.

 

[Expat]

Mueller’s investigation wasn’t impeaded. But the deranged people think that Trump firing Comey was obstruction. I’m just saying, given that there isn’t any evidence a crime actually happened, that wasn’t obstruction. Furthermore, it now requires more assumptions to think Trump fired Comey for any other reason than what he said. He fired Comey because Comey wouldn’t say the words Trump wanted him to say publicly. That’s not obstruction.

Sort of like Corsi. Mueller demanded that he say certain words or be charged with obstruction. He maintained his integrity and refused to make the demanded statement. Now it appears the whole matter is dropped. What does that say about Mueller and his demands. Apparently there was no evidence to support the statement that Mueller was demanding.

 

[actaeon277]

So when do Google, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and other social media platforms start banning Trump-Russia conspiracy theorists for spreading fake news?

Let me hold my breath on that one.

 

[actaeon277]

It’s almost like there should be a word for enjoyment derived from other people’s misery.

Well, it seems there are some people that seem to draw pleasure from being in pain (being a victim).
Pretty sure there's a word for that.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Any word on how many pages the Mueller report is?

Mueller’s crew was pretty much leak free. Wonder how long until some swamp crawler starts leaking now that the report has left his office.

have you looked at who his crew is? Look at the Enron prosecutors and the lives they ruined. To be completely overthrown

 

[BugI02]

Originally Posted by GIJEW
What should have been deprogramming turned into 2 years of collusion-delusion....and they're saying "it ain't over yet". I saw the often hyperbolic "patriot nurse" say that "we might not be able to vote ourselves out of this one [as in civil war]". She may have a point. It might be worth having a congressional committee review the peaceful split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech and Slovak republics, and how that might be done here.

Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
A house divided against itself, cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become lawful in all the States, old as well as new — North as well as South.



Lincoln's prediction was accurate but it came at the cost of the bloodiest, most destructive, war the country has ever experienced. If that's where we're headed, maybe we should plan for a different outcome? Aside from superpower-straddling-a-continent status, how much benefit do we actually derive from sharing a nation with socialists who hate everything the country is supposed to stand for--including the Constitution itself?

If history teaches us nothing else, it should teach us that appeasement never prevents war - it merely leads to more demands until those demands themselves become intolerable. I can't think of any time after the turn of the 19th century where delaying the onset improved the tactical situation

As a jew, would you have Israel give up half its territory and most of its seacoast to its enemies just because those enemies refuse to get along? If not, why would you advocate it for the US? The prescient part of Lincoln's quote is that the US will become either all one thing or all the other. Do not make the mistake of seeing this flirtation with socialism as anything other than existential

 

[INPatriot]

So, what's the consensus now? Is Mueller still a bad guy, or did he and he (as previously said) angry Democrat investigators conduct an honorable investigation?

The investigation proves what 40% of the American public probably previously believed. To that 40%, there is never honor in a witch hunt. This group will consider Mueller a bad guy for a two year investigation that confirmed what they already knew.

To the 30-40% that abhor Donald Trump with every fiber of their being, they will demand everything be released and die on the hill that he was not exonerated. They will despise Mueller for not confirming what they tell the media they believe to be true. They, to their detriment will attempt to move the goalposts to the next crisis they can manufacture.

To the remainder, my thoughts are that they are ready to move on. They may not have cared, still don't care or even know the significance of Bob Mueller. "You wanted your investigation, you got your investigation. Move on." I believe this group is growing more tired of the antics of the 30-40% that abhor Trump than the 40% upon whom Trump can rely.

 

[KittySlayer]

Let me hold my breath on that one.

So you know some top secret(*) submariner trick for holding your breath for six years until the end of Trump's second term?



(*) one ping only for Yes

 

[hoosierdoc]

Yes, Mueller still bad guy. Looked all over for absurdities. Basically did the opposition research for Dems in 2020.

 

[KG1]

Mueller’s investigation wasn’t impeaded. But the deranged people think that Trump firing Comey was obstruction. I’m just saying, given that there isn’t any evidence a crime actually happened, that wasn’t obstruction. Furthermore, it now requires more assumptions to think Trump fired Comey for any other reason than what he said. He fired Comey because Comey wouldn’t say the words Trump wanted him to say publicly. That’s not obstruction.

It seems to me if I’m remembering correctly that Rosenstein gave a recommendation that Comey should be let go. Now if I’m remembering that correctly then wouldn’t Rosenstien be a co-conspirator in the supposed obstruction?

Either way Comey was a piece of garbage and needed to be tossed for a whole host of reasons.

 

[HoughMade]

Saw VP Pence on TV out in the flooded areas Sundays. He seemed sad, somehow.

 

[spencer rifle]

Long but worth the read. The Media now has to deal with the fallout of years passing off unsubstantiated rumor as fact. Nothing they say now will be believed by lots of folks.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

 

[Birds Away]

I've been watching the media two step this morning. They aren't letting go. They're still talking impeachment. After waiting two years for Mueller to deliver the goods they are insisting that he was not exonerated and that the bar for impeachment is much lower than it is for prosecution. They are also now betting heavily on the Southern District of New York and their investigation. The media wants what it wants and will not be denied.

 

[rw02kr43]

I thought it was great. It was like Hillary lost all over again.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Long but worth the read. The Media now has to deal with the fallout of years passing off unsubstantiated rumor as fact. Nothing they say now will be believed by lots of folks.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

But passing off unsubstantiated rumor as fact has been their business model for a long time. There may still be some true journalists out there, but they are few and far between. The rest are just "columnists" to put it in newspaper terms. They're not there to report the facts, they're there to state their opinions.

 

[HoughMade]

How do you prove a negative?

You can't, but you describe it as "does not exonerate him".

 

[mmpsteve]

So, what's the consensus now? Is Mueller still a bad guy, or did he and he (as previously said) angry Democrat investigators conduct an honorable investigation?

The fact that Mueller didn't indict any Democrats for the true collusion and deception that was the FISA court scandal and DOJ attempted coup, means that yes, Mueller is still a very bad guy. Since his investigation could have went anywhere the evidence lead, you'd have thought it would have led right to the culprits of the fake dossier, the fake Hillary investigation, etc ... but it didn't, so he's scum.

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[Doug]

But passing off unsubstantiated rumor as fact has been their business model for a long time. There may still be some true journalists out there, but they are few and far between. The rest are just "columnists" to put it in newspaper terms. They're not there to report the facts, they're there to [STRIKE]state their opinions[/STRIKE] support Democrats and Socialists.

FIFY

 

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Conway calls on Schiff to resign over past collusion comments