Merry Christmas! You killed your step-daughter.

[hornadylnl]

But why would the homeowner be expecting their friends to be entering a basement window unannounced at an odd hour? (keep in mind these inquiries could be made for discussion on the part of the devil's advocate)

Because no one ever makes stupid choices as a teenager. We all did everything by the book and never once disobeyed our parents or snuck around behind their backs.

 

[KG1]

In the context of what the circumstances were would it be more reasonable for the homeowner to believe it was someone entering the home unannounced thru a basement window at an odd hour intent on doing ill-will than it would be that they were a friend/family member? (emphasis on the word "reasonable")

 

[hornadylnl]

In the context of what the circumstances were would it be more reasonable for the homeowner to believe it was someone entering the home unannounced thru a basement window at an odd hour intent on doing ill-will than it would be that they were a friend/family member? (emphasis on the word "reasonable")

If my teenagers were goody two shoes who have never been in an ounce of trouble? Or has there been a history of rebellion and things like this have occurred before?

 

[Snapdragon]

In the context of what the circumstances were would it be more reasonable for the homeowner to believe it was someone entering the home unannounced thru a basement window at an odd hour intent on doing ill-will than it would be that they were a friend/family member? (emphasis on the word "reasonable")

About as reasonable as it would be to look before shooting.

 

[avboiler11]

In the context of what the circumstances were would it be more reasonable for the homeowner to believe it was someone entering the home unannounced thru a basement window at an odd hour intent on doing ill-will than it would be that they were a friend/family member? (emphasis on the word "reasonable")

It is completely reasonable to expect someone in your home, when they are not supposed to be, to have ill-will toward you.

But there's no way to know if the unknown person in your home really is known UNLESS YOU USE A DAMN LIGHT.

This is being made out to be way, way, WAY more complicated than it needs to be.

Short story: Use a light to identify what/whom you might be discharging your weapon at is a threat, it only takes a fraction of a second and might safe a life (and lifetime of regret).
Shorter story: know your damn target

 

[IndyDave1776]

Luckily Bobby Knight gave classes before he left town.

What? I thought we were discussing the possibility of shooting people, not throwing chairs at them.

 

[KG1]

If my teenagers were goody two shoes who have never been in an ounce of trouble? Or has there been a history of rebellion and things like this have occurred before?

I guess that would be the caveat. If there was a history of this type of behaviour of sneaking in basement windows and such.

 

[Denny347]

OK, let's just say it and stop beating around the bush...The homeowner was 100% justified in shooting/killing his step daughter. She should have known better and she deserved it. All teens should take heed that if you sneak out (like millions have done) you could be killed by your family upon re-entry. It should not matter that you ASSUME that family will recognize you if you wake them up, I mean, they ARE family and should figure out it is you and not a burglar right? Does this really need purple? Would taking a split second to verify your target REALLY been so hard? Could the advantage of NOT killing your family outweigh the "perceived" disadvantage of identifying your target? Let's be honest though, many of the big talking posters on here would likely shake themselves silly in fear if they really faced this situation in REAL life.

 

[actaeon277]

Are we done yet?

 

[hornadylnl]

I guess that would be the caveat. If there was a history of this type of behaviour of sneaking in basement windows and such.

Don't think many 14 year olds go from goody two shoes to staying out all night and climbing through a window at 6 am. Were the parents oblivious to what this child was doing?

My daughter is nearly 12 but I know right now this isn't something she would possibly do. But I'm also smart enought to realize there will most likely be a lot of changes in the next few years. And no, I'm not looking forward to it. They say your kids are payback for all the things you did to your parents. If that's the case, I hope she's paying me back and not her mother.

It continually amazes me how many people forget that they were ever young themselves.

 

[Snapdragon]

I think it's irrelevant whether you think your kid would be coming in the window or not. Look before you ****ing shoot.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Killing someones daughter is hazardous to your health too.

Not in my house it is not.

 

[SERparacord]

Not in my house it is not.

The real Dad lives with you too! cool.

 

[danielson]

What a novel concept..

 

[Roland of Gilead]

Don't think many 14 year olds go from goody two shoes to staying out all night and climbing through a window at 6 am. Were the parents oblivious to what this child was doing?

My daughter is nearly 12 but I know right now this isn't something she would possibly do. But I'm also smart enought to realize there will most likely be a lot of changes in the next few years. And no, I'm not looking forward to it. They say your kids are payback for all the things you did to your parents. If that's the case, I hope she's paying me back and not her mother.

It continually amazes me how many people forget that they were ever young themselves.

Yes sir it takes only one boy to make miss goody two shoes, a girl that might talk on the phone too late. Then one day they might sneak out and go see her friends. God forbid she wants to come home and sneaks back in her own house, because some people around here want to shoot first and see who they shot later. I'm speaking of teenagers in general not your kin of coarse, they can and will change.

I just do not understand a kid sneaking into their own house as a being deadly game. Apparently it can be, but this appears to be an issue of the Dad not identifying his target.

P.S. Are you saying your wife missed behave more as a teen than you did, because that is how I read it? Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[hornadylnl]

Yes sir it takes only one boy to make miss goody two shoes, a girl that might talk on the phone too late. Then one day they might sneak out and go see her friends. God forbid she wants to come home and sneaks back in her own house, because some people around here want to shoot first and see who they shot later. I'm speaking of teenagers in general not your kin of coarse, they can and will change.

I just do not understand a kid sneaking into their own house as a being deadly game. Apparently it can be, but this appears to be an issue of the Dad not identifying his target.

P.S. Are you saying your wife missed behave more as a teen than you did, because that is how I read it? Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Yes, she caused her parents more grief than I mine. I had my hand in some of her parents grief as well

 

[Roland of Gilead]

Yes, she caused her parents more grief than I mine. I had my hand in some of her parents grief as well

My younger sister was a hell child and it was hell on me.
Now she is a rock of Motherhood, sisterhood and daughter-hood.
If my Dad would of shot every person sneaking into his house he would have no kids and 26 dead teenagers in the town of Plainfield.

 

[Bunnykid68]

My younger sister was a hell child and it was hell on me.
Now she is a rock of Motherhood, sisterhood and daughter-hood.
If my Dad would of shot every person sneaking into his house he would have no kids and 26 dead teenagers in the town of Plainfield.

I bet after he shot the 1st one every one would have gotten the hint

 

[Roland of Gilead]

I bet after he shot the 1st one every one would have gotten the hint

I had a younger brother too, so I guess it would be a 3-4 chance he shot his own kid. If he was shooting his children at random in his windows.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

Yes there probably be less sneaking out or in if he started killing kids for it. I will grant you that.