Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[Hatin Since 87]

To get any meaningful comparison, check the infection rate vs the death rate for a given time period and country. Also be sure that you are comparing the same strain of virus, as new interations may have different characterstics with respect to contagiousness and severity of disease. Something a bit more in-depth than a chart with no context may be necessary.

Ah. I see. So I asked the question, and instead of providing the information you’re telling me to find it myself. I see how this works

 

[Hatin Since 87]

As expected with a vastly more contagious variant in a reopened society.

Have you checked the death RATE for vaccinated individuals yet, or would that mess with your confirmation bias?

What’s the death rate of unvaccinated individuals?


I don’t care how “vastly more contagious” a “variant” is. If you’re going to force me to take a vaccine, it should be effective, variant or no variant.

 

[BugI02]

I have not seen anyone making the claim that the vaccination prevents the disease. Especially with the more virulent Delta variant. It does, however, vastly reduce the number of deaths, which is the more important goal. It should be obvious that if a population is mostly vaccinated, that most cases new case will be breakthrough cases on the vaccinated.

Go find some charts on Singapore's death rate at 85% vaccinated vs the death rate in the US with 56% vaccinated. Let me know what you come up with.

'Virulent' doesn't mean what you think it does

 

[Alpo]

What was the death rate last year, before vaccines?

You can probably find that fairly easily by looking at the source document you used to cut off your graph to prove your hype above.

 

[BugI02]

That's odd.

Nearly all major airlines mandate COVID vaccine for employees

One union is warning that it could have repercussions for the holiday season.

www.cbsnews.com

"United said hundreds of vaccine holdouts changed course in the past week as they risked losing their jobs. As of September 28, 593 employees refused to get the vaccine, according to the company. By October 7, that number decreased to 232."

Not exactly the 3% you're looking for, I imagine.

I don't have numbers on SW's sick calls because they didn't release them, they're trying to bury the lede. We can see the level of disruption they were able to create

And do recall, they don't even have to call in sick - all they have to do is obey all rules to the letter in order to implement a severe and spreading slowdown, which will have the same results

Perhaps SW pilots simply haven't been neutered

 

[BugI02]

No source is ever 100% accurate. You're free to make your healthcare decisions based on Twitter, memes and the latest hysteria from Zerohedge. I'll take a different path.

I see you state some such, but the content of your posts is pure vaccine sycophancy

Maybe try walking the walk

 

[NKBJ]

Live and let live I say.

 

[BugI02]

What’s the death rate of unvaccinated individuals?


I don’t care how “vastly more contagious” a “variant” is. If you’re going to force me to take a vaccine, it should be effective, variant or no variant.

One of them might be, eventually, someday. They just need to be able to keep experimenting on us and it might happen

 

[Hatin Since 87]

One of them might be, eventually, someday. They just need to be able keep experimenting on us and it might happen

The fact we’re not even a year into the vaccines and already need the first vaccine plus 2 booster shots pretty much show the effectiveness of it, regardless what some people wanna peddle.

 

[Alpo]

The fact we’re not even a year into the vaccines and already need the first vaccine plus 2 booster shots pretty much show the effectiveness of it, regardless what some people wanna peddle.

It's Darwinian. Either your belief is correct....

or not.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

It's Darwinian. Either your belief is correct....

or not.

Ditto

 

[BugI02]

It's Darwinian. Either your belief is correct....

or not.

That sounds suspiciously like binary thinking! Mr jamil! Mr jamil! Pick up the white courtesy phone, please

 

[BugI02]

Socially distance, get the vax, die anyway

 

[Alpo]

That sounds suspiciously like binary thinking! Mr jamil! Mr jamil! Pick up the white courtesy phone, please

Depends on your point of view. A circle may appear to be a straight, flat line if the radius is quite large.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I’m still waiting for someone to show me the death rate of unvaccinated individuals, then show me the death rate of vaccinated individuals. Seems a lot of people made that claim when it was shown we had more deaths this year than last, but nobody wanted to provide any sort of evidence proving their theory correct.

 

[Alpo]

Ditto

Hmmmm. I'm gonna go for the parlay, Alex.

 

[Alpo]

I’m still waiting for someone to show me the death rate of unvaccinated individuals, then show me the death rate of vaccinated individuals. Seems a lot of people made that claim when it was shown we had more deaths this year than last, but nobody wanted to provide any sort of evidence proving their theory correct.

I don't know anyone making that claim, at least not on INGO. I remember almost everyone who replied to a comment I made requesting the same information to wonder where that data was.

 

[bobzilla]

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Weird. If we can’t compare years, maybe we can just look at statistics within the year. Over 85% vaccinated in Singapore. I’m sure we’ll hear more scapegoats and rationalizations for why that happened tho.

That 15% unvax’d.

 

[Ingomike]

Every once in a while, I see something posted and harbor some fantasy that if I just explain a little bit about how a deeper dive into stats, all will be clear....but then I come to my senses. No one is interested in an objective analysis. It's all an exercise in confirmation bias.

Frankly, the ad hominem attacks are a lot more fun.

Is it not more than a little ironic that those constantly going on about confirmation bias have their own confirmation bias, that anything posted that goes against TPTB is a confirmation bias?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I don't know anyone making that claim, at least not on INGO. I remember almost everyone who replied to a comment I made requesting the same information to wonder where that data was.

It sure sounded as if they were using the “it’s the unvaxxed” argument in post 1881.