Looks like the bumpstock ban is about to become real

[JeepHammer]

President Trump's executive order banning bump stocks starts today, you have a 90 day amnesty to destroy or surrender your bump stock to BATFE.
That amnesty only covers the bump stock OFF the rifle, installed the bump stock is classified as a 'Machine Gun' from today forward.

 

[1775usmarine]

So who's planning on being a felon? Asking for a friend.

 

[protias]

So who's planning on being a felon? Asking for a friend.

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229

 

[indykid]

I used to think I was a fairly intelligent person, and then AT and unconstitutional F comes along and makes me wonder. I used to think that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed meant just that, but ATF tells me that the second amendment is modified by adding - except that rifle barrels be longer than 16 inches, shot gun barrels longer than 18 inches, and overall length over 26 inches, that one may not own certain butt-stocks and no firearm purchased after a certain date in the mid 1980s can fire more than one round per trigger pull unless it was taxed and approved before that date, et al.

That said, you just about need to be a lawyer to understand all the different rulings about butt-stocks!

 

[MCgrease08]

An update from GOA about where everything stands as of mid afternoon on Tuesday 3/26.

[video=youtube_share;cT_vnn1Yz-0]http://youtu.be/cT_vnn1Yz-0[/video]

 

[Dean C.]

I am very interested to see how the GOA / Military Arms Channel lawsuit works out.

 

[cbhausen]

President Trump's executive order banning bump stocks starts today, you have a 90 day amnesty to destroy or surrender your bump stock to BATFE.
That amnesty only covers the bump stock OFF the rifle, installed the bump stock is classified as a 'Machine Gun' from today forward.

Link??? First time I’ve heard this.

 

[T.Lex]

Link??? First time I’ve heard this.

I think the 90 days was from the date the rule was adopted in December.

 

[cbhausen]

I think the 90 days was from the date the rule was adopted in December.

That’s what I thought too but when jeephammer mentioned the on- versus off-rifle thing made me wonder. If Chief Justice Roberts added this new amnesty period wouldn’t it be all over the news?

 

[MCgrease08]

If you watch the video from GOA I posted above, they clearly state in the discussion that as of 3/26, anyone in possession of a bump stock can be charged with a felony as if they are in possession of an unregistered and unlicensed machine gun.

 

[cbhausen]

RW Arms in Fort Worth, TX had to shred 60,000 bump stocks under ATF supervision:

https://www.rwarms.com/industry/leading-retailer-of-bump-stocks-to-turn-in-entire-inventory-to-atf/

 

[T.Lex]

That’s what I thought too but when jeephammer mentioned the on- versus off-rifle thing made me wonder. If Chief Justice Roberts added this new amnesty period wouldn’t it be all over the news?

The justices can't create an amnesty period - there's either a stay or there's not. (Although, they can make the stay last a certain period of time, technically, that really doesn't make sense in this case.)

RW Arms in Fort Worth, TX had to shred 60,000 bump stocks under ATF supervision:

https://www.rwarms.com/industry/leading-retailer-of-bump-stocks-to-turn-in-entire-inventory-to-atf/

Ouch.

They need better lawyers.

 

[indykid]

RW Arms in Fort Worth, TX had to shred 60,000 bump stocks under ATF supervision:

https://www.rwarms.com/industry/leading-retailer-of-bump-stocks-to-turn-in-entire-inventory-to-atf/

Isn't there something in the constitution besides the 2nd amendment that bans confiscation without reparations? So they destroy 60,000 stocks that were legal yesterday but illegal today, supervised by ATF and get nothing out of it except maybe a tax write off?

 

[BigRed]

Yes. Trump (A) is an ass. Hillary (B) is a *****. So you have two evils from which to choose. Maybe in some contexts B is better than A. But those are contexts which I fail to imagine. I feel like I’m stuck with A, even though he’s an ass. Give me a better choice and I’d gladly take it. B isn’t. Judging from the clown car full of Democrats currently entered in the race, none of B’s team, as ass as A is, is any better. ****ed up as that is. It’s what it is.

In the future, when your children and grandchildren have their natural rights to defense suppressed, are stripped of their labor and property to fund the burden of out of control debt, and are suffering under an out of control administrative state, they may ask you why you voted for such things.

Then you can explain that you voted for a "lesser of two evils" because that's the only way you could vote.

I wonder if they will thank you.

 

[BigRed]

Now come the Republicans advocating for red flag laws.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/26/senate-republicans-state-gun-law-reform-1237446


Not to worry though...just a "narrow" law... and less evil than others.

 

[cbhausen]

Don’t forget what he said about red flag orders. Something along the lines of we get the guns first and then worry about due process. **** that!

[video=youtube_share;yxgybgEKHHI]http://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI[/video]

The lesser of two evils is still evil. If I could have 10 seconds with Trump I tell him what a ****ing ******* I think he is for this bump stock bull****. What a **********. I fully expect him to cave next time something horrific happens here.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

In the future, when your children and grandchildren have their natural rights to defense suppressed, are stripped of their labor and property to fund the burden of out of control debt, and are suffering under an out of control administrative state, they may ask you why you voted for such things.

Then you can explain that you voted for a "lesser of two evils" because that's the only way you could vote.

I wonder if they will thank you.

So your one of the ones that voted for Perot then.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

Isn't there something in the constitution besides the 2nd amendment that bans confiscation without reparations? So they destroy 60,000 stocks that were legal yesterday but illegal today, supervised by ATF and get nothing out of it except maybe a tax write off?

The gov'ts position now is that they were always illegal machineguns and therefore the "takings clause" does not apply...even though the BATFE said TWICE that they were not machineguns. Yes, the gov't really is that insane. And people wonder why some of us are saying that the very idea of rule of law is at stake in this case.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Just in... US Supreme Court has refused to hear a second appeal of bump stock ban, ending the Supreme Court's involvement, and leaving the ban in effect.

Thanks for taking away another slice of ever-diminishing cake.

 

[Trigger Time]

Just in... US Supreme Court has refused to hear a second appeal of bump stock ban, ending the Supreme Court's involvement, and leaving the ban in effect.

Thanks for taking away another slice of ever-diminishing cake.

Thats just for the emergency stays. Now the lawsuit commences in the lower courts, no doubt making it to the supreme court eventually. Never give up