Kut's Trump Approval Thread #1 (Starts Out at 100%)

[jamil]

"Now,"...which is obviously after Comey's firing. He could only speak of what he knew at the time he was director... which as I stated, is earlier that "now."

Do you have any reason to believe that Trump is under criminal investigation other than wishful thinking?

If he is, and if he deserves to be, then so be it. But I haven't seen any reasons that would lead me to believe that he is under investigation "now".

 

[actaeon277]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/analysis-...ted-along-024053701--abc-news-topstories.html

[h=1]ANALYSIS: Trump vindicated? President gets from Comey what he wanted all along[/h]




DEVIN DWYER

Good Morning AmericaJune 08, 2017

 

[Fargo]

"Now,"...which is obviously after Comey's firing. He could only speak of what he knew at the time he was director... which as I stated, is earlier that "now."

I'm still not understanding why I would "bet" that he is under investigation now?

What knowledge do we the unwashed masses have now that Comey wouldn't have had?

 

[jamil]

I'm still not understanding why I would "bet" that he is under investigation now?

What knowledge do we the unwashed masses have now that Comey wouldn't have had?

Short of any other rational reason, I'm gonna have to go with wishful thinking.

 

[Trigger Time]

Comey is a bigger piece of **** now than before. He obviously has a desire to be in the limelight and nothing more. He is a baby.
he probably is even a criminal after what he leaked to his friend to leak to the press and he lied about his motives.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Do you have any reason to believe that Trump is under criminal investigation other than wishful thinking?

If he is, and if he deserves to be, then so be it. But I haven't seen any reasons that would lead me to believe that he is under investigation "now".

Hey maybe you're right. Maybe our govt is so inept that following a sworn congressional testimony, in which one alleges a bad action by another, and the question not being settled if that wrongdoing was legal or not, it makes sense to not investigate it.


Kut (laughs at the lunacy of partisanship)

 

[jamil]

Hey maybe you're right. Maybe our govt is so inept that following a sworn congressional testimony, in which one alleges a bad action by another, and the question not being settled if that wrongdoing was legal or not, it makes sense to not investigate it.


Kut (laughs at the lunacy of partisanship)

What is the bad action alleged?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Partisanship will insure this does not die out. The part about Obama's AG obstructing justice will of course...but the democrat partisanship will not give up. I'm not sure this is a winning formula. We'll see.

 

[Kutnupe14]

What is the bad action alleged?

Lies by the president concerning his "suggestions" to Comey. Were they innocent mentionings, or were they concerted effort to obstruct justice? I know, I know, I'm the only one who understands why this would lead to an investigation. No problem, I get the unwavering, albeit irrational, support the president enjoys.

Kut (understands)

 

[T.Lex]

The smartest people in Washington don't appear on TV or in front of Congressional investigations.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The smartest people in Washington don't appear on TV or in front of Congressional investigations.

Unless they have a bone to pick. Comey could've shut up and retire quietly to private life, but he wanted to stick it to somebody. From my understanding, he wanted this hearing to be public. In that regard, I think Trump was spot on. He's a "showboat."

 

[jamil]

Lies by the president concerning his "suggestions" to Comey. Were they innocent mentionings, or were they concerted effort to obstruct justice? I know, I know, I'm the only one who understands why this would lead to an investigation. No problem, I get the unwavering, albeit irrational, support the president enjoys.

Kut (understands)

As tastey as that outcome may seem to you, that's not obstruction. The Don Corleone stuff is kinda creepy but for no more than it was it didn't reache the bar of criminal.

 

[Fargo]

Lies by the president concerning his "suggestions" to Comey. Were they innocent mentionings, or were they concerted effort to obstruct justice? I know, I know, I'm the only one who understands why this would lead to an investigation. No problem, I get the unwavering, albeit irrational, support the president enjoys.

Kut (understands)

I question how much you "understand" since you don't seem to have figured out my openly stated position on Trump.

The reason Nixon would likely have been dinged for obstruction of justice is because he was taped ordering the intelligence community to lie and say that the Watergate break-in was a national security operations so as to shut down the criminal investigation.

I'm not much of a fan of his, but this whole "he can't tell his subordinates how he would like them to do their jobs thing" is legally a dog that almost certainly won't hunt.

 

[jamil]

Unless they have a bone to pick. Comey could've shut up and retire quietly to private life, but he wanted to stick it to somebody. From my understanding, he wanted this hearing to be public. In that regard, I think Trump was spot on. He's a "showboat."

According to Comey it pissed him off when Trump badmouthed him and the FBI's supposed disarray. Seems like a legitimate reason to set the record straight. But I do agree that given his behavior over the last year, he seems to like being in front of a mic.

 

[Kutnupe14]

As tastey as that outcome may seem to you, that's not obstruction. The Don Corleone stuff is kinda creepy but for no more than it was it didn't reache the bar of criminal.

It might not be. Some say it is, some say it isn't. I'm not saying either. What I am saying is that it will almost certainly be looked into (an investigation).

 

[jamil]

It might not be. Some say it is, some say it isn't. I'm not saying either. What I am saying is that it will almost certainly be looked into (an investigation).

There's already an investigation going on for this whole domain by Muller. Muller has the memos.

Whether or not Trump obstructed justice really depends on what Trump actually said to Comey. Trump was said to have posed the question like, Flynn was a “good guy” so he shouldn’t be harassed, or something to that effect. That doesn’t meet the obstruction threshold. But if it were posed in a way where it was apparent that Trump didn't want the investigation to reveal things, then it seems that's more clearly obstruction.

With the Comey testimony, I think Trump gets a technical win. But in public opinion maybe he gets a loss. I don't think Comey's testimony really told us much that his written statement didn't already tell us. But on interesting thing we did learn is about the apparent collusion going on between the Clinton campaign and the Justice Department leading up to the election.

 

[rooster]

I don't like the whole idea of memos written about conversations. The only reason I have heard of someone doing this is in an attempt to use the conversations against someone else because they don't like them. The fact that he had never bothered to create a record of his dealings with anyone else shows that he has a clear bias against Trump. This calls in to question the validity of his testimony.

Also Kut we both know that these type of reports done afterwords can easily be slanted to make the person writing them look better Than they should.

 

[Dddrees]

Unless they have a bone to pick. Comey could've shut up and retire quietly to private life, but he wanted to stick it to somebody. From my understanding, he wanted this hearing to be public. In that regard, I think Trump was spot on. He's a "showboat."

Well I guess the President should have never tried to spread the crap he tried to say about Comey and the FBI then. But the main point for me anyway is that the President should have never conducted himself in such a manner to appear as though he was trying to obstruct justice. I guess between the two I'll take Comey instead of someone who tries act like he's above the law.

 

[Dddrees]

Ooh, Comeys a dirty rotten leaker.


Trump calls ex-FBI director Comey a "leaker" after testimony

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I don't think it's a "leak" if you are sharing unclassified recollections. But good luck getting Trump's "LEAKER" talking point to change. Really misleading.