Kut's Trump Approval Thread #1 (Starts Out at 100%)

[SheepDog4Life]

Actually, he ran daddy's legacy down to negative numbers. Bankrupt, until his sisters bailed him out. I saw an article in Fortune or Forbes that said he could have invested in the S&P index and been further ahead after all this time.

What is Trump really worth? No one knows. He values his name at 2 Billion. Is he honest in saying he's worth billions? Real estate developers and used car salesmen are generally pretty untrustworthy.

Ummm... just his golf course holdings are worth billions... and generate $100's millions of annual income.

https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TrumpFinancialDisclosure20150722.pdf

 

[indiucky]

Damn Trump is such a loose canon. What a frigging idiot.

You know it might reflect better on you if you quit calling the President a "frigging idiot" and made your case....Kut and I agree that ANYONE who gets to be President of these United States is not an "idiot".....While I disagreed with Obama on many fronts I refused to doubt his intellect nor call him names...

There are good people on here that support Trump...I am not one of them..I mean I support Trump but I am not "good people".....

Just something you should consider...I disagree with Bernie Sanders but I would never call him a "frigging idiot" because that would reflect bad on me...Not Bernie...It would show that all I have is slurs and name calling....It would really reflect bad on me if I did that.....

 

[Alpo]

He's got a ways to go to beat this gal....

One of them is in charge of running the country. The other one is not. False equivalency.

 

[Alpo]

Ummm... just his golf course holdings are worth billions... and generate $100's millions of annual income.

https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TrumpFinancialDisclosure20150722.pdf

Assets less DEBT equal net worth. You really don't know what his obligations are. We haven't seen a tax return so we don't know what his income is.

Do golf courses generate huge amounts of profit? Not in my experience.

 

[BugI02]

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[Alpo]

What federal office does Chelsea hold?

How is this relevant to the job Trump is doing?

 

[T.Lex]

I believe they are making the case that in 20 years she'll be as qualified to be POTUS as Trump is. Was. Whatever.

 

[Alpo]

In 20 years I'm probably not gonna care. I doubt she'll be any prettier and I probably won't have control of my bladder.

 

[BugI02]

You are criticizing Trump for not starting out penniless. Chelsea is the epitome of a silver spoon baby, not Trump

You brought up his family bailing him out of bankruptcy. Do you think Chelsea would even be allowed to fail

What does Trump's personal wealth/net worth have to do with the job he is doing? If he really is worth 10 billion, does that mean he would/should be doing a better job? Is his mediocre performance more understandable if he's worth a mere 2 billion? If you wish to succumb to class envy, at least be consistent

 

[BugI02]

I believe they are making the case that in 20 years she'll be as qualified to be POTUS as Trump is. Was. Whatever.

I can't type very fast, you have to give me more time if you really want an answer

 

[Alpo]

You are criticizing Trump for not starting out penniless. Chelsea is the epitome of a silver spoon baby, not Trump

Actually, it was a response to the commenter who said "He has gotten further in life than any of us have". Quantitatively, that isn't the case. Qualitatively, I'd put him in the lower quartile of humanity.

You brought up his family bailing him out of bankruptcy. Do you think Chelsea would even be allowed to fail

What does Trump's personal wealth/net worth have to do with the job he is doing? If he really is worth 10 billion, does that mean he would/should be doing a better job? Is his mediocre performance more understandable if he's worth a mere 2 billion? If you wish to succumb to class envy, at least be consistent

Again, Chelsea isn't running for anything right now. False equivalency. You can compare and contrast Trump with anything you desire. Right now, he's the president and the evaluation should be on the job he's doing for the country, not what some over-privileged horse-faced woman is doing for brunch.

 

[BugI02]

Actually, he ran daddy's legacy down to negative numbers. Bankrupt, until his sisters bailed him out. I saw an article in Fortune or Forbes that said he could have invested in the S&P index and been further ahead after all this time.

What is Trump really worth? No one knows. He values his name at 2 Billion. Is he honest in saying he's worth billions? Real estate developers and used car salesmen are generally pretty untrustworthy.

Ah, yes! Obviously, I was mistaken

 

[T.Lex]

I can't type very fast, you have to give me more time if you really want an answer

If my wit is anything, it is quick.

After the early rounds of Trumps-success-is-his-resume repartee, I bored of it. Especially after he won, I care FAR less about his qualifications than I do about how he is actually doing.

I'm still kinda neutral on his overall contribution to leading the country.

 

[Alpo]

Ah, yes! Obviously, I was mistaken

Well, you must be, since that quote response had nothing to do with what you'd previously remarked.

Perhaps you thought you said it.

Or it could be a sock puppet.

Who knows?

 

[BugI02]

If my wit is anything, it is quick.

After the early rounds of Trumps-success-is-his-resume repartee, I bored of it. Especially after he won, I care FAR less about his qualifications than I do about how he is actually doing.

I'm still kinda neutral on his overall contribution to leading the country.

I'm not exactly having a Colter moment, yet. But the map that leads us from where we are now to good, effective government seems pretty hard to visualize

 

[T.Lex]

I'm not exactly having a Colter moment, yet. But the map that leads us from where we are now to good, effective government seems pretty hard to visualize

See? People say consensus is hard to find here on INGO. And yet, there it is.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Assets less DEBT equal net worth. You really don't know what his obligations are. We haven't seen a tax return so we don't know what his income is.

His financial disclosure lists BOTH ASSETS and LIABILITIES (loans, debt). Tax returns, at least the ones I'm familiar with, list neither, only income. Have you actually looked at the almost 100 page financial disclosure?

Do golf courses generate huge amounts of profit? Not in my experience.

I have no experience with golf clubs with a $200,000 membership fee (Mar A Lago), nor with courses that charge $450 greens fees (Trump National Dural). Do you?

 

[Fargo]

He's gotten far further in life than any of us has.

Depends on the metrics you use. I personally don't see the ability to leverage large amounts of money into larger amounts of money to be a metric I care much about. I also don't see the ability to leverage tv fame into political success to be a positive whether you are Trump/Ventura/Arnold/Franken, or anyone else.

I consider myself way ahead of Trump in a large number of metrics that actually matter to me. Things like honesty, marital fidelity, actually parenting my kids, how I treat people, etc. YMMV.

 

[Alpo]

His financial disclosure lists BOTH ASSETS and LIABILITIES (loans, debt). Tax returns, at least the ones I'm familiar with, list neither, only income. Have you actually looked at the almost 100 page financial disclosure?

Please summarize the information into a balance sheet and profit and loss statement. We BOTH know that isn't possible with the info provided. You are offering the sleeves out of your vest.

I have no experience with golf clubs with a $200,000 membership fee (Mar A Lago), nor with courses that charge $450 greens fees (Trump National Dural). Do you?

A $200k membership is nothing. It's the ongoing assessments that keep a club running. I'm very familiar with one club that was on the PGA tour. Corporate memberships and member assessments kept it running. Revenues associated with the tournament defrayed most, but not all of the costs. The PGA and the players did pretty well, however.

You'd be better off owning a McDonalds franchise than most golf clubs.

 

[T.Lex]

You'd be better off owning a McDonalds franchise than most golf clubs.

The first owner of a golf club goes bankrupt.

The second owner goes crazy.

The third owner makes money.

It'll be interesting to see how Trump's golf resorts do after his name loses its value. Which it will, at some point.