John Kerry, broken femur, healthcare hypocrisy

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    Birds Away

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    I don't think anyone is defending Kerry. We're just observing the facts don't logically conclude in the statement Hoosierdoc wants to make. It's pretty obvious to me what happened: Hoosierdoc is having a bad day and is angry about healthcare, he reads the news about Kerry, then jumps to conclusion. Now he has to leave because his pride is hurt, and he can't admit to himself that in a fit of rage he said something that doesn't make sense.

    Also, the use of logic doesn't make you a lib. In fact, logic exists on both sides, though hardly in abundance.

    The use of logic and Liberalism are mutually exclusive in my experience.
     

    1911ly

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    The use of logic and Liberalism are mutually exclusive in my experience.

    I think you meant to say elusive. Most of the liberal logic eludes me.

    to get back more on topic. Kerry's broken leg could be deals with in any civil country in the world. I think it is a slap in the face to the country he is in to have not been treated there. Come on! it's all about elitist treatment. No expense spared for the treatment. How many millions did this cost the tax payer. For something that could have been looked at by the host country's doctors.

    What a great chance the American public missed to see how well socialist medicine works. It could have been great to he how well he was cared for. Opportunity missed.
     

    churchmouse

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    You do realize the guy just finished burying his baby daughter, right? The rest of my thoughts on your post would truly earn me a vacation.

    Maybe......maybe not.........That is my point. If you are an active member here and missed the fact you mention or just carry on regardless goes to character....or total lack there of.
     

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    You do realize the guy just finished burying his baby daughter, right? The rest of my thoughts on your post would truly earn me a vacation.

    No, I don't pay attention to Hoosierdoc's personal life. That does explain his decision. Now I find myself agreeing that he should stay away. INGO just isn't a good place for grieving folks.
     

    churchmouse

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    No, I don't pay attention to Hoosierdoc's personal life. That does explain his decision. Now I find myself agreeing that he should stay away. INGO just isn't a good place for grieving folks.

    This was widely discussed in many threads when it happened.

    Ingo is a place for anyone. Why not a grieving parent who has support from so many in Ingo.
     

    drillsgt

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    Actually, most of our military and even civilian people overseas (like State Department families) are routinely flown back to the states or to US hospitals in Europe when injured. It's not uncommon at all. Soldiers are stabilised on site and then transferred out to other facilities. So, yes, the same privilege is accorded them.

    As for a Swiss official, yeah. They likely would fly home if the situation warranted it and they wished it. I've seen it happen before. The reason you haven't done anything like it is that you're in the US and usually see people from your locale. If you do see people from out of town, it wouldn't surprise me if any of them transferred themselves to their own homes.

    The difference with that is they are told that it how it's going to happen it's not by request i'm sure, it's just how the military treatment SOP is, not really because of priviledge but logistics.
     

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    No, I don't pay attention to Hoosierdoc's personal life. That does explain his decision. Now I find myself agreeing that he should stay away. INGO just isn't a good place for grieving folks.

    Wow, I've came here many a time with grief and sadness and found my INGO family's support helped me make it threw the day. I guess some of us are closer then others. I know who my INGO family are. And I love them!

    And I have helped a few when I can. I am always here for those that need it. Be it an ear or a buck or to or even advice. I am here. I know doc is the same. As is CM and and more members then I can name in a page.

    Sometimes it's best to just sit quietly then jumpin the frying pan with smart arsed uninformed hurtful comment that doesn;t calm the situation.
     

    1775usmarine

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    Actually, most of our military and even civilian people overseas (like State Department families) are routinely flown back to the states or to US hospitals in Europe when injured. It's not uncommon at all. Soldiers are stabilised on site and then transferred out to other facilities. So, yes, the same privilege is accorded them.

    As for a Swiss official, yeah. They likely would fly home if the situation warranted it and they wished it. I've seen it happen before. The reason you haven't done anything like it is that you're in the US and usually see people from your locale. If you do see people from out of town, it wouldn't surprise me if any of them transferred themselves to their own homes.

    Yeah to Germany and if something more serious a military hospital back in the states but not to their hospital of choice in the civilian world. Which is what Hoosierdoc's point was. When I was in and had Tricare I got sick on leave really bad. I tried to see my family doctor who would of been able to get me in in less than 45 min, but Tricare didn't have my doctor in the plan. I had to go to a hospital's fast track and wait 5 hrs to be seen and given medicine.
     
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    Maybe he needs to go to one of those liberal forums that would be respectful of his feelings?

    This is a community first, more than a forum or anything else. Like brothers, we argue, but we shake hands and carry on. And when someone is hurting, we circle around them and do our best to help them along. If you can't see that, perhaps....well, it isn't my place to say. Doc will always have a place here when he wants it. As long as he is gone we will miss him, but I wish him the very best and hope he is well, peaceful and happy.
     
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