It's simply amazes me how desperate the liberals are to keep from getting found out of their treachery.

[oze]

Could it not also be interpreted Indiana no place?

Sure it could. But I first heard it from a FIP when I started working for AT&T in Naperville in 1988, when I told him Indy had all of the positives of Chicago, without the shootings. I wouldn't be able to make that point today.

 

[jamil]

Those that @jetta supports failed to administer the duly passed laws.

But the law of love trumps federal laws. Love thy neighbor as yourself and support him with other people’s resources. Otherwise, you’re mistreating your neighbor. Who once lived in Haiti, but now lives in Springfield OH, because there wasn’t enough cultural strife in Springfield.

 

[red_zr24x4]

support him with other people’s resources.

And this is the problem for me.
If I choose to support someone it should be with my resources, no one else's.
Just as if you choose to support them it should be with your resources.
Just like the Fed sending money to other countries, most of them hate us but want our money.

 

[foszoe]

But the law of love trumps federal laws. Love thy neighbor as yourself and support him with other people’s resources. Otherwise, you’re mistreating your neighbor. Who once lived in Haiti, but now lives in Springfield OH, because there wasn’t enough cultural strife in Springfield.

I believe Jetta said he was willing to put them in his home.

There is no law of love for the Christian there is a commandment. Since Jetta says he is a Christian, we should expect that commandments trump the law of man when the law contradicts.

If he is advocating for govt money to support his charity that could be an issue. Haven't seen him say that here.

 

[jamil]

I believe Jetta said he was willing to put them in his home.

Yes. I saw that. Hopefully he doesn't home the Voodoo practitioners, because they'll probably be quite offended when he proselytizes. Not that anyone should take the spells seriously.

There is no law of love for the Christian there is a commandment.

Is that not the law of love? Besides, you don't follow the commandments because it is written in the Bible. In this dispensation you follow the law written on your heart. I'm sure Jetta would agree. But this doesn't really have anything to do with immigration.

Since Jetta says he is a Christian, we should expect that commandments trump the law of man when the law contradicts.

There is no commandment in the Bible that requires a country to house people who aren't culturally compatible. But, there may be odd interpretations that make people say as much on the internet.

If he is advocating for govt money to support his charity that could be an issue. Haven't seen him say that here.

His engagement seems to be. I don't see why the "love commandment" would necessarily trump federal law if he's not making that argument. It would make no sense.

 

[foszoe]

Yes. I saw that. Hopefully he doesn't home the Voodoo practitioners, because they'll probably be quite offended when he proselytizes. Not that anyone should take the spells seriously.

His choice who he brings under his roof.

His engagement seems to be. I don't see why the "love commandment" would necessarily trump federal law if he's not making that argument. It would make no sense.

I took it as he is making that argument for himself not applying it to you.

As for biblical commandments concerning welcoming strangers/foreigners etc.

The commandments to love make no exclusions.
Mt 25:31-46 also comes to mind.
The other references I would have to locate chapter verse.
Xenos is the word translated stranger. Can also mean foreigner

 

[JettaKnight]

Yes. I saw that. Hopefully he doesn't home the Voodoo practitioners, because they'll probably be quite offended when he proselytizes. Not that anyone should take the spells seriously.

It'd be a learning experience for sure.

Is that not the law of love? Besides, you don't follow the commandments because it is written in the Bible. In this dispensation you follow the law written on your heart. I'm sure Jetta would agree. But this doesn't really have anything to do with immigration.


There is no commandment in the Bible that requires a country to house people who aren't culturally compatible. But, there may be odd interpretations that make people say as much on the internet.

There's tons of OT commandments to Israel about immigrants, but don't apply in our current situation at all, there are plenty of passages related to hospitality to strangers that absolutely apply.

His engagement seems to be. I don't see why the "love commandment" would necessarily trump federal law if he's not making that argument. It would make no sense.

I am not not necessarily advocating the federal monetarily support refugees. Nor am I saying Christians should in any way interfere with federal immigration laws. I don't condone sanctuaries.

I only speak about what a Christian should be compelled to do.

 

[foszoe]

They just carted a guy off the field in the Oklahoma Tennessee game. Said he was from Springfield OH. I sure hope his pets are alive to comfort him.

 

[BigRed]

They are scared?

Have you looked at some post here along the lines of if Trump doesn't win then there won't be an America?

Hell, the republic has been dead for about 164 years.

 

[BigRed]

There's tons of OT commandments to Israel about immigrants, but don't apply in our current situation at all, there are plenty of passages related to hospitality to strangers that absolutely apply.

How many strangers are you hosting in your home today?

 

[firecadet613]

There's tons of OT commandments to Israel about immigrants, but don't apply in our current situation at all, there are plenty of passages related to hospitality to strangers that absolutely apply.

What's an OT commandment? A commandment in overtime? Off topic?

 

[ancjr]

Satan is working overtime.

 

[ancjr]

Jesus being "un-Christ-like" to a "stranger" Matthew 15:26 KJV

 

[jamil]

It'd be a learning experience for sure.


There's tons of OT commandments to Israel about immigrants, but don't apply in our current situation at all, there are plenty of passages related to hospitality to strangers that absolutely apply.

I think for this rationale to make any sense, you'd have to be asserting that the US should be morally compelled take in refugees who are culturally different, because of stranger doctrine. I think it's more humane to help them in their own country. It's has hard on culturally disparate refugees to fit into a new culture as it is on the host country's own people.

I am not not necessarily advocating the federal monetarily support refugees. Nor am I saying Christians should in any way interfere with federal immigration laws. I don't condone sanctuaries.

I only speak about what a Christian should be compelled to do.

But you're using this Christian argument to counter people who say they shouldn't be here. What you've argued so far doesn't make any sense given what people have said.

You used the word "mistreated". I don't think anyone has advocating mistreating these people. They've said should not be spending tax payer money on them. And people have expressed that we should not allow firing American workers so that refugees can have jobs. And we should not tolerate dumping refugees with widely different cultural behavior, amounting to 1/3 of a city's population, on the residents.

So about the federal policy. Let's look at this solution in terms of what problem they must be trying to solve. What problem does dumping that many culturally diverse people on a small town solve? Did they think Springfield was a bit too white? A bit too conservative? A bit too Republican? A bit too American? Seems like it's more reasonably a solution for one or more of those "problems" than any legitimate problem.

 

[printcraft]

It'd be a learning experience for sure.

 

[Ingomike]

His choice who he brings under his roof.

I took it as he is making that argument for himself not applying it to you.

As for biblical commandments concerning welcoming strangers/foreigners etc.

The commandments to love make no exclusions.
Mt 25:31-46 also comes to mind.
The other references I would have to locate chapter verse.
Xenos is the word translated stranger. Can also mean foreigner

This may be your most ridiculous post ever. That passage has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. What does Christ’s return and and separating of those who received him from those that rejected him have to do with immigration?

 

[jamil]

All over we're being told to be scared of LEGAL immigrants because they eat our pets.

I think you're being overly dismissive. Even if they're legal, it does not negate the vast cultural difference. I've worked with many legal immigrants. I've worked with refuges from Vietnam, Iran and a few others I can't think of at the moment. Of late I've worked with a lot of Indians. People from Nepal. Pakistan. I have zero problems with them.

They all respect our laws and our culture and as far as I can tell are decent people. They try to fit in. Not everyone can fit in. I'm not saying all Haitians can't fit in. I think the people complaining about them in Springfield aren't given a fair hearing, and given some of the big cultural differences some are causing more strife than benefit.

Immigration is not a suitable substitute for growing your population. But we'll hear a lot from elitists who are hell bent on depopulating the Earth that we should compensate for low birth rates by bringing in people from other countries regardless of disparate incompatible cultures.

 

[jamil]

This may be your most ridiculous post ever. That passage has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. What does Christ’s return and and separating of those who received him from those that rejected him have to do with immigration?

Okay. It's been awhile since I last went to church. I'm not at all religious. But I still do read the Bible. That passage is not just about Christ's return. It is about that, but the point is what separates the sheep from the goats. What is in your heart now?

As it pertains to this subject, dropping that many refugees on a community ill-equipped to handle them, is not fulfilling the sheep's behavior. It has nothing to do with sheep or goats. That's why I said JK sounds more like he's virtue signaling. It's a non sequitur.

 

[foszoe]

This may be your most ridiculous post ever. That passage has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. What does Christ’s return and and separating of those who received him from those that rejected him have to do with immigration?

I asked you 3 questions. I am waiting for your answer.

 

[Ingomike]

I asked you 3 questions. I am waiting for your answer.

Not answering. Get over it.