Is The Government Shutdown Affecting You Directly?

[jedi]

have u emailed him yet this idea... just saying

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'd like to think there's an inflection point when even Mitch says, "enough is enough."

Whoa - that's a big step over the boundary. I really don't think we want that Rubicon to be crossed. "Screw the division of power - give it all to one man because I agree with him this time."

I would hope the American people would be throwing a tantrum at point.


The ugly fact remains - it's her little kingdom because America decided to give it to her. That's the way the Constitution set up. I don't think it's fair to violate that.

And America decided to give the presidency to Trump, but that hasn't stopped all the caterwalling on the left. #Resist

 

[Libertarian01]

I'd like to think there's an inflection point when even Mitch says, "enough is enough."

Whoa - that's a big step over the boundary. I really don't think we want that Rubicon to be crossed. "Screw the division of power - give it all to one man because I agree with him this time."

I would hope the American people would be throwing a tantrum at point.


The ugly fact remains - it's her little kingdom because America decided to give it to her. That's the way the Constitution set up. I don't think it's fair to violate that.

I don't see that big of an issue with it. Under the Constitution he is legally authorized during extraordinary times to convene the Congress. He has the legal power under the Constitution to adjourn them.

He cannot force them to vote in any way they don't want to. They aren't kidnapped. They can leave anytime they want - at the peril of losing the majority.

And he has the power to do so because the Constitution gives it to the office of the President. This isn't like an Executive Agreement v/s a Treaty. This is original text.

Also, the republicans could agree with the democrats. They could vote against him on everything.

Regards,

Doug

EDIT: IMO the true crisis formed years ago with the democrats all voting in lockstep and the republicans all voting in lockstep partisanship!

 

[JettaKnight]

And America decided to give the presidency to Trump, but that hasn't stopped all the caterwalling on the left. #Resist

We gave it to Obama - twice. And we caterwauled then.

Say actions, different sides.

 

[JettaKnight]

I don't see that big of an issue with it. Under the Constitution he is legally authorized during extraordinary times to convene the Congress. He has the legal power under the Constitution to adjourn them.

That's the part I'm not sold, "extraordinary times" what defines that? Why is now considered such a time?

 

[Libertarian01]

That's the part I'm not sold, "extraordinary times" what defines that? Why is now considered such a time?

The longest partial government shutdown in history, with no end in sight.

I would respectfully posit that this isn't too far of a stretch, if stretching at all.

Regards,

Doug

 

[mmpsteve]

The longest partial government shutdown in history, with no end in sight.

I would respectfully posit that this isn't too far of a stretch, if stretching at all.

Regards,

Doug

I like the way you think, sir.

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[BluePig]

Flew from South Bend to Charlotte NC this week for work.
Both times, the TSA appeared to be fully manned and functioning.
As a matter of fact, they were downright polite.
I even thanked them for their service.
The one officer did say to me that I didn't know what it was like to work and not get paid.
I then got to tell him about the time the company that I worked for was sold and I didn't see a paycheck for a month till the sale was complete.
Selling company didn't want to pay us anymore and wouldn't tell us what was going on.
Buying company couldn't do anything till they bought the company because they were under a gag order.
But eventually everything got worked out and the buying company took care of us.
Officer then changed his tune and was very sympathetic.
I had more problems with plane maintenance than I did with anything gov't related.

 

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[jamil]

And what happens when Congress comes to an agreement to pass a bill with no funding?

There's nothing in that section that says they have to agree with him.

Three words. Mitch ****ing McConnell.

 

[pute62]

Wait,What?, The government is shut down? Haven't even noticed.

 

[indyjs]

Trump should just declare a National Emergency for the opioid crisis. Much more flexibility

 

[DoggyDaddy]

We gave it to Obama - twice. And we caterwauled then.

Say actions, different sides.

We complained. We planned (hoped) to do better next election. We weren't out in the streets issuing forth with primal screams. We weren't issued crayons, puppies and safe spaces and trauma counseling. For the most part, we acted like adults who were disappointed, not like toddlers that have been told "no". We didn't start calling for impeachment before he was even sworn in. Yes there were some that questioned his citizenship and whatnot, but those people were in the minority overall. So, no, not the same actions.

 

[jedi]

hu???

 

[BigRed]

Wait,What?, The government is shut down? Haven't even noticed.

I always said the biggest threat to the federal government is for folks to recognize just how unnecessary it truly is.

 

[jedi]

Flew from South Bend to Charlotte NC this week for work.
Both times, the TSA appeared to be fully manned and functioning.
As a matter of fact, they were downright polite.
I even thanked them for their service.
The one officer did say to me that I didn't know what it was like to work and not get paid.
I then got to tell him about the time the company that I worked for was sold and I didn't see a paycheck for a month till the sale was complete.
Selling company didn't want to pay us anymore and wouldn't tell us what was going on.
Buying company couldn't do anything till they bought the company because they were under a gag order.
But eventually everything got worked out and the buying company took care of us.
Officer then changed his tune and was very sympathetic.
I had more problems with plane maintenance than I did with anything gov't related.

did you know that some airports dont even have tsa!
san fran and seatle are 2 that use private screening companies and their wait times is lower then tsa and are much nicer. imagine that...

 

[mmpsteve]

hu???

You didn't hear about the Puerto Rico 'diplomatic' trip by democrats?

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[jedi]

I always said the biggest threat to the federal government is for folks to recognize just how unnecessary it truly is.

oh that is quit simple to fix.
instead of having taxes takes out via a w4 worksheet. have the workers figure out thier total tax bill based on what they earned the year before divide that by the number of checks this year and see how many will be screaming when they see the REAL number of how much they are taxed

 

[jedi]

You didn't hear about the Puerto Rico 'diplomatic' trip by democrats?

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no?
link please.

 

[mmpsteve]

no?
link please.

Jedi has google, yes?

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