Indiana Black Expo, what are you doing to get ready?

[IndyMonkey]

Those, and the unchecked emotions that always occurs with a lack of sufficient rest, and too much alcohol.

Uh no, those are excuses. These people live this life, it doesn't happen after 9pm on a Saturday.

 

[thompal]

"Indiana Black Expo generates $38 million for the city."

Always follow the money and you'll get your answer.

Hmm, isn't that about the amount of money that the bankrupt CIB agreed to give to the Pacers because the Pacers don't want to pay their own expenses????? (of course, the Pacers get to keep 100% of revenue from Conseco, even though they don't pay any expenses there!).

Of course, no matter what corrupt reason, the fact that the local government (Ballard) has sold out the citizens for profit is disgusting, and I can't wait until Ballard is gone. The fact that he'd rather put all of our lives at risk so he can fund his favorite millionaires, coupled with his anti-gun stance (so we're all easier targets) means he's got to go. I can't see how even a staunch Democrat could possibly be worse than Ballard.

 

[thompal]

is it possible that the difference between those events is socio-economics and education rather than race?

Maybe, but if this isn't representative of blacks, but rather of socio-economically disadvantaged and uneducated, then maybe they should rename it the "Poor Ignorant Thug Expo" so as not to besmirch the otherwise stellar reputation of the black community.

 

[JBusch8899]

Uh no, those are excuses. These people live this life, it doesn't happen after 9pm on a Saturday.

Excuse or not, such is still a common denominator.

 

[JBusch8899]

is it possible that the difference between those events is socio-economics and education rather than race?

It has has everything to do with the former, and nothing to do race.

However culture has quite an influence.

Isnt that the same thing?

 

[JBusch8899]

........ the fact that the local government (Ballard) has sold out the citizens for profit is disgusting........

I would add that it isn't merely local government promoting such, as well as such the problems didn't start with Ballard or any particular party for that matter, as they have been practiced long before he took office.

 

[antdog/zook]

parents scared to whip their kids and mtv. mtv has ruined kids, thinking everything is "ok" that they see on television.

 

[E5RANGER375]

parents scared to whip their kids and mtv. mtv has ruined kids,............

i grew up watching MTV. Spring break beach party was my FAVORITE I always wondered how those chicks bikinis stayed up. I tried so damn hard to use the "force" and wish them off

 

[IndyMonkey]

One of the strongest political parties in Indianapolis is the Black Clergy. They are the ones that control a large amount of voters in Indianapolis. If you control that, then you control the mayor and everyone down the line.

My money is on that IMPD has had a hands off stance for the minor stuff in the past. WHen that happens and you get away with stuff, it progresses to lawlessness that I have witnessed down town Indy at night during the BE.

I have lived in the city the last 15 years and observed a lot of things that make you understand why things are the way they are.

 

[JBusch8899]

.....My money is on that IMPD has had a hands off stance for the minor stuff in the past. WHen that happens and you get away with stuff, it progresses to lawlessness that I have witnessed down town Indy at night during the BE.

I have lived in the city the last 15 years and observed a lot of things that make you understand why things are the way they are.

Agreed. Striking the correct balance has yet to be accomplished.

 

[E5RANGER375]

so because our politicians are afraid of them rising up then they get away with animalistic behavior. and if the police try to do their jobs and be a good police officer they get reprimanded by their bosses. ITS A BUNCH OF CRAP that we are letting happen.
let them rise up! I have plenty of stuff that will put them down!

 

[IndyMonkey]

How about the balance of people quit breaking the damn laws. Let the police do there job, and parents and courts punish the law breakers like they should be.

 

[JBusch8899]

so because our politicians are afraid of them rising up then they get away with animalistic behavior. and if the police try to do their jobs and be a good police officer they get reprimanded by their bosses. ITS A BUNCH OF CRAP that we are letting happen.
let them rise up! I have plenty of stuff that will put them down!

Agreed. Though with your last sentence, it might have been better to have attempted to emulate Roosevelt's quote, of "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

 

[E5RANGER375]

Agreed. Though with your last sentence, it might have been better to have attempted to emulate Roosevelt's quote, of "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

yeah thats what I meant to say

 

[JBusch8899]

How about the balance of people quit breaking the damn laws. Let the police do there job, and parents and courts punish the law breakers like they should be.

Don't misconstrue my statement. I'm not arguing that the law shouldn't be enforced, nor is it my argument that the police shouldn't be proactive in crime prevention.

One of the best assets is the ability for LE to turn their heads to certain acts and types of behavior. Citing each and every violation observed by the police, would alienate the city's population, and would eventually cause greater problems due to the fact that the police require the community's assistance to effectively perform their duties.

 

[Hoosier8]

Maybe, but if this isn't representative of blacks, but rather of socio-economically disadvantaged and uneducated, then maybe they should rename it the "Poor Ignorant Thug Expo" so as not to besmirch the otherwise stellar reputation of the black community.

It is a cultural problem that is within a particular race. It certainly does not represent all of that race.

When a culture arises as a victim culture, of course, with historical roots, and blames all problems on the past, they cannot move into the future. For instance, when being successful is seen as being too white, that is a self defeating premise. When a culture elevates the criminal element as an ideal, then there will be problems. When a culture celebrates children out of wedlock, as if that has no effect, then there are consequences.

The socio-economic problems originally stemmed from institutionalized racism, codified by law. Racism still exists, but the laws have changed and there is no reason for anyone to not be able to increase their standing in the economic stratus. Many immigrants from other countries come over here with little in their pockets and make a good living by being industrious. In fact I think I remember a Spike Lee movie (I might be wrong about the filmmaker) where three black men were sitting on a corner angry at the successful Korean? store owner on the other corner. It highlighted the cultural problem.

The shootings are now linked on the Drudge Report so I expect to see it on National news. Well, just maybe.

 

[JetGirl]

i grew up watching MTV.

Now I just feel old.
Junior high, BFF & me, bowl of popcorn, fuzzy black & white TV and...
"Ladies and gentlemen, rock and roll..."

*sigh*
I'm sure that means nothing to you.

 

[Colt556]

Now I just feel old.
Junior high, BFF & me, bowl of popcorn, fuzzy black & white TV and...
"Ladies and gentlemen, rock and roll..."

*sigh*
I'm sure that means nothing to you.

I hear ya, well except for the BFF part. Sammy Terry on the weekend and old monster movies, Jiffy Pop and Root Beer.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Now I just feel old.
Junior high, BFF & me, bowl of popcorn, fuzzy black & white TV and...
"Ladies and gentlemen, rock and roll..."

*sigh*
I'm sure that means nothing to you.

i wish i had grown up in a simpler time. now if a TV show host called people "ladies and gentlemen" they would be lying through their teeth.

 

[JetGirl]

i wish i had grown up in a simpler time. now if a TV show host called people "ladies and gentlemen" they would be lying through their teeth.

Those were some of the first words spoken on MTV when they kicked off the maiden voyage video "Video Killed the Radio Star".
Here, greenhorn:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw6xesXLIAA]YouTube - MTV LAUNCH FIRST DAY SATURDAY 12:01 am AUGUST 1st , 1981 1st hour Part 1[/ame]