Hypocrisy on the Stormy Daniels front

[Kutnupe14]

Don't really understand that one. I think Michelle could be pretty hot looking if you don't consider some of her snarly facial expressions.

...and you too.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Don't really understand that one. I think Michelle could be pretty hot looking if you don't consider some of her snarly facial expressions.

I just ate lunch. Guess we can chalk that one up as a waste of money.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Just something to think about. We both have our perspectives, and I'm not going to say you're wrong. We can move on. I appreciate you being civil.

Same to you, nice having different perspectives. I didn’t think about the Kenya thing until you pointed it out, so definitely have that to ponder.

 

[Route 45]

Some can't play in the big leagues... but are willing to do drivebys, when if they are ignoring people, they should just stay quiet.

Big leagues.

Here ya go, hero. Enjoy the "Man Size Wads."

Big leagues. AH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[printcraft]

Exception post: Not help the not racist argument... she also called black youths "super predators," was mentored by Byrd, and had a husband who made a dig at Obama, by comparing his wins to Jessie Jackson in 84 and 88.

Wait till you hear about what she said about the Haitians...

 

[printcraft]

Don't really understand that one. I think Michelle could be pretty hot looking if you don't consider some of her snarly facial expressions.

 

[indiucky]

Big leagues.

Here ya go, hero. Enjoy the "Man Size Wads."

Big leagues. AH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that's a blast from the past...LOL....

 

[Route 45]

Now that's a blast from the past...LOL....

[video=youtube;k3C20ud3344]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3C20ud3344[/video]

 

[Hatin Since 87]

OK, I laughed way too hard at these.

 

[jamil]

I disagree, and will always disagree.

That doesn't leave much room for adjusting your beliefs according to discovered facts. I'm trying to see where you get that. I'm just not seeing it. I think some of the "Birthers" are probably racists. It seems evident enough to say that's a fact. But I see no reason to connect Birtherism to Obama being Black, or to racism, other than many leftists essentially calling any Obama criticism racist. There's nothing inherently racist about suspecting that someone was born in another country. Especially when people find some pamphlet erroneously stating he was born in Kenya. The author of that Pamphlet herself, said it was an error. But once it's out there people just keep believing it. THAT's not racism. That's confirmation bias.

The earliest I can find for the origin of foreign birth was early 2008. Several "Birther" debunk sites say the rumors started from right wing conspiracy sites. But I can't see where it first gained wide spread notoriety in the media until later in the Primary season, when Hillary supporters emailed out chain emails repeating the foreign birth rumors, apparently taken from these right wing sites. Wikipedia says the rumors of the foreign birth morphed from a claim Andy Martin, a Democrat, made about Obama's religion back when Obama ran for US Senate. I'm guessing that right wing conspiracy nuts sort of dug into that and it grew into the rumors about Obama being born in Kenya. There's nothing that requires racism to believe in conspiracy theories. So I really don't see a direct tie there.

So other than the fact that some racists likely believe Obama was born in Kenya, I can find no cause to believe that only racists believe Obama was born in Kenya. There's no dots I can find to connect the two. So if you have some information that I haven't seen, maybe some dots I've missed, I'm willing to look. But as far as I can tell, thinking that Birthers are inherently racist is just a belief.

And it's certainly not true that Trump started all the Birther stuff about Obama. Trump didn't even mention it publicly until 2011. The birther stuff is at least as old as 2008.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Big leagues.

Here ya go, hero. Enjoy the "Man Size Wads."

Big leagues. AH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not surprising that you would know exactly where to find "man sized wads." Me, I'm not looking. But hey, if that's your thing, that's your thing. Not judging.

 

[Route 45]

It's not surprising that you would know exactly where to find "man sized wads." Me, I'm not looking. But hey, if that's your thing, that's your thing. Not judging.

Bigot.

 

[Kutnupe14]

That doesn't leave much room for adjusting your beliefs according to discovered facts. I'm trying to see where you get that. I'm just not seeing it. I think some of the "Birthers" are probably racists. It seems evident enough to say that's a fact. But I see no reason to connect Birtherism to Obama being Black, or to racism, other than many leftists essentially calling any Obama criticism racist. There's nothing inherently racist about suspecting that someone was born in another country. Especially when people find some pamphlet erroneously stating he was born in Kenya. The author of that Pamphlet herself, said it was an error. But once it's out there people just keep believing it. THAT's not racism. That's confirmation bias.

The earliest I can find for the origin of foreign birth was early 2008. Several "Birther" debunk sites say the rumors started from right wing conspiracy sites. But I can't see where it first gained wide spread notoriety in the media until later in the Primary season, when Hillary supporters emailed out chain emails repeating the foreign birth rumors, apparently taken from these right wing sites. Wikipedia says the rumors of the foreign birth morphed from a claim Andy Martin, a Democrat, made about Obama's religion back when Obama ran for US Senate. I'm guessing that right wing conspiracy nuts sort of dug into that and it grew into the rumors about Obama being born in Kenya. There's nothing that requires racism to believe in conspiracy theories. So I really don't see a direct tie there.

So other than the fact that some racists likely believe Obama was born in Kenya, I can find no cause to believe that only racists believe Obama was born in Kenya. There's no dots I can find to connect the two. So if you have some information that I haven't seen, maybe some dots I've missed, I'm willing to look. But as far as I can tell, thinking that Birthers are inherently racist is just a belief.

And it's certainly not true that Trump started all the Birther stuff about Obama. Trump didn't even mention it publicly until 2011. The birther stuff is at least as old as 2008.

You may see it anyway you like. My opinion won't be changed.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Bigot.

Big what? Now I need to close my blinds.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Round 2...

 

[Route 45]

Big what? Now I need to close my blinds.

Do it quick. There's a racist behind every rock and tree in your yard.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Do it quick. There's a racist behind every rock and tree in your yard.

Don't be mad that my route is closed. I said I'm not judging. But damn 45 is a fairly large caliber. Might I suggest something foreign?

 

[indiucky]

Round 2...

Dang it....I told you all I am tweeting Jenna Jameson!!!!! All right...Going off the Salma for a bit for girl next door.....

 

[jamil]

You may see it anyway you like. My opinion won't be changed.

I’m trying to see what the truth is. I’m open to the possibility it’s racist, but the facts don’t make that evident. If you’re using facts to see it the way you see it, then you must have some facts I haven’t seen.

 

[BugI02]

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