Herald Times Online to publish carry permits

[Lars]

The Herald Times thanks you INGO...

With Ad Block Plus activated.... they got a big fat NOTHING in terms of advertising revenue from me.... and I won't be registering for their rag.

 

[MACHINEGUN]

ISP is NOT happy having to give the information over but under STATE LAW they have no choice. They don't 'annouce' on their website that you (read anyone) can get th DB but if anyone ask about it they have to provide the info on how to obtain it (ie. pay $32 to get it).

That is because they have a brain and they use it.. not to mention they understand the seriousness of the situation. Just because it is law.. doesn't mean it is "right". Hopefully since this is getting a lot of attention.. someone who can do something will step up and change it.

 

[Lars]

T...... someone who can do something will step up and change it.

That would be each and every one of us.....

If you/I/we haven't written our state reps, we fail in the responsibilities laid out for us by our founding fathers and deserve what we get.

 

[MACHINEGUN]

I agree Lars.

I contacted my state representatives via email when I first heard about this.. if we all do the same.. something will get done.

 

[SavageEagle]

I agree Lars.

I contacted my state representatives via email when I first heard about this.. if we all do the same.. something will get done.

I can just sit back, close my eyes, and picture 300K pissed off gun owners screaming CHANGE THE LAW! .....

 

[Kirk Freeman]

A Hoosier blogger responds with his "Journalist Database" (for your safety):

Journalist Database update Gun Nuts Media

 

[dburkhead]

My letter to my State representative and Senator:

Dear Ms. Pryor:

I have just read where the Herald Times online, in Bloomington, is providing a database of how many people have licenses to carry handguns on any given street. While they did not release individual names and addresses, it brought to my attention that, by law, the Indiana State Police are required to release the database to anyone who asks and who pays the modest fee to have the database written to CD. That must change.

This is unconscionable. Not only is this a blatant violation of individual privacy, but it allows criminals access to information that would make their jobs easier in the cases of wanting to avoid houses where occupants are likely to be armed or, conversely, wants to find a house where firearms are likely to be present to steal. Let me repeat. This policy helps criminals.

I urge you to introduce or support legislation, and to encourage your colleagues to support legislation, to forbid the distribution of handgun license information except to law enforcement engaged in an active investigation or when specific information is ordered released by a court.

Ms. Pryor is almost certainly a lost cause since her response to previoius letters has put her firmly in the "anti" camp. Mr. Delph appears to be on our side.

A slightly edited version will be going to Mr. Daniels and Ms. Skillman.

 

[Lars]

Rep. Kathy Richardson, Senator Beverly Gard, and Governor Daniels have all received letters from me.

 

[AGarbers]

Another way to look at this...

If I lived on a street that didn't have any Carry Permits, I would be pissed at the BH. Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry thug knows there's a good chance of no one being armed on that street!

 

[Lars]

Only two of us have stepped up and written our reps?

wow.... Just wow.

 

[dburkhead]

Only two of us have stepped up and written our reps?

wow.... Just wow.

I'm going to presume that others have and just haven't reported back here. There's no obligation to report to the peanut gallery after all.

I tend to include the text of my letters because I have been told I have some small skill with the English language and figure the text may help others find their words.

 

[SavageEagle]

Only two of us have stepped up and written our reps?

wow.... Just wow.

I'm going to presume that others have and just haven't reported back here. There's no obligation to report to the peanut gallery after all.

I tend to include the text of my letters because I have been told I have some small skill with the English language and figure the text may help others find their words.

I have written my reps and 13 surrounding reps including our Speaker, Attorney General, and the Governor. Basically the same people I always write/email. I would have posted my letter if I thought it would do any good. However, David is much better with verbiage and I tend to be a little more.... up beat.

Next time I will be sure to post my letter for everyone's amusement.

 

[longbow]

this is funny!

THANK YOU HERALD TIMES!!!

 

[longbow]

Who has scheduled meetings with our elected officials?

I prefer face to face meetings. You can get a real solid feeling on where they stand.

 

[SavageEagle]

this is funny!

THANK YOU HERALD TIMES!!!

That is now flagged as best of!

 

[jespol227]

Way to invade personal privacy regarding demographic information (address and phone), but also way to go on jeopardizing safety.....I really feel great about EVERYONE having free access to knowing that I have firearms in my home.....especially the criminals. Wonderful idea.....

Seriously, I can't even believe that this is an issue- I can't believe that this can even be allowed. There should be some law to protect personal privacy concerning owning LEGAL weapons. The only people who won't be on this stupid registry are the criminals. STUPID STUPID STUPID.

Perhaps a database that has lists of people with WEAPONS violations, are who have been convicted or crimes involving firearms? Criminalize the criminals...not the rest of us who are law abiding responsible gun owning citizens. Shame on you Herald Times Online...

 

[jedi]

Understan jespol227 that when INDIANA "created" the license database they (the legislature) did **NOT** think of the issue of the data being public/private/for LEO/etc.. That is understandable as they were more focused on getting the "gun laws" portion done. It was been after the fact in which individuals/orgs have asked to se if they can get it and have been sucessful after IN WORKERS have read thru the laws and discovered that there is nothing STOPING it that the issue has come up.

What is now occuring via many different people (both INGO members and off this board) is that the current legislators are being may aware of a "hole" in the law and to get it fixed.

I'm glad you are expressing your anger/worry/fustration over this like many of us. What would make me even more happy is for you to help. Take a few mins and send a letter/email/call your reps and tell them how you feel about this issue. If you do that any nothing else then you have done your part as well.

 

[SavageEagle]

As long as the database is open to LEO for a criminal investigation or when they run someone's LTCH, that's fine. But the public should not have access to it.

 

[longbow]

F I R E MISSION!!! HELP ARFCOM- get-Herald Times newspaper to remove gun owner database-update - AR15.COM

interesting

 

[Panama]

Only two of us have stepped up and written our reps?

wow.... Just wow.

I wrote mine 3 weeks ago?

3 Weeks Ago #86 (permalink)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill of Rights
I can't speak for anyone else, but I am rather shocked that for less than the price of a dinner and movie for two, someone can get all of this very private information.

My email went out this morning to begin correcting this travesty.

Blessings,
Bill

I could not agree more!
The conversation I had on the phone with Lt Berkey was very cordial and I got the feeling he DID NOT like it any better than most of us do, however, there was nothing he could do other than provide the information.

My State Legislator will be getting an email and a phone call shortly.
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