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  • jwamplerusa

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    Maybe…but without context it looks like a mission statement.

    From Hitler.
    No, it does not. The context was the rest of the newsletter, and the organization's mission statement.


    Sorry, but I don't know how any citizen of this Nation can make the leap you have attributed to the organization's inclusion of an attributed quote. They did not claim the text as theirs and plagiarize Hitler, they gave an attributed quote as a warning.
     

    buckwacker

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    Maybe…but without context it looks like a mission statement.

    From Hitler.
    See this is what I'm talking about. This is what they were talking about. Your worldview is evidence of a successful application of the concept. Knee-jerk, over the top reactions to fragments of information without waiting for or even looking for additional context is evidence that you've been basically programmed to think, or actually to react and not think, this way. This isn't a dig on you, you're a product of your training.
     

    LeftyGunner

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    Quoting someone does not equal agreeing with or associating with someone. Come on LG, this is really weak sauce. You know it, rise above the brainwashing. Don't let these people control you.

    I agree that quoting someone is not the same as agreeing with someone.

    However, in this case, this organization quoted Hitler because they agree with Hitler on the point he was making.

    Thats also the source of the association…they didn’t have to bring Hitler into it at all, but they did. If you don’t want to be associated with Hitler, you probably shouldn’t lead a conversation with “we think Hitler was right about this”.

    This is a group that wants to remove books from public school libraries in a state that allows unstructured homeschooling. This isn’t about what their kids see…they already have the option of total control over their own child’s curriculum...this is about limiting what other people’s children can see.

    So to me, this group (without a hint of irony or context) choosing a quote from Hitler about controlling the education of children is as much about what they want to accomplish as it about what they claim they want to avoid.
     

    buckwacker

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    I agree that quoting someone is not the same as agreeing with someone.

    However, in this case, this organization quoted Hitler because they agree with Hitler on the point he was making.

    Thats also the source of the association…they didn’t have to bring Hitler into it at all, but they did. If you don’t want to be associated with Hitler, you probably shouldn’t lead a conversation with “we think Hitler was right about this”.

    This is a group that wants to remove books from public school libraries in a state that allows unstructured homeschooling. This isn’t about what their kids see…they already have the option of total control over their own child’s curriculum...this is about limiting what other people’s children can see.

    So to me, this group (without a hint of irony or context) choosing a quote from Hitler about controlling the education of children is as much about what they want to accomplish as it about what they claim they want to avoid.
    No, you've made an assumption about the reason for including the quote based on the very sort of indoctrination they are warning about. The leftist propagandists tell everyone there is a major problem with nazis and white supremacist, and because you believe them, you come down uncritically on the side that these people must be Nazis because they put a Hitler quote on a newsletter. The fact that you think some parents choice, protect the kids group from Hamilton County Indiana are Nazis is simply proof that Hitler and the communists that held similar views on indoctrination weren't wrong. You're being used by these people.
     

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    This is a group that wants to remove books from public school libraries in a state that allows unstructured homeschooling. This isn’t about what their kids see…they already have the option of total control over their own child’s curriculum...this is about limiting what other people’s children can see.
    So are you saying a TAXPAYER should not have a right to question porn being pushed in public school libraries just because they choose to homeschool their children? Are you OK with taxdollars being spent on porn in public school libraries? Have you read the Gr666mer thread? It touches on these same issues.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    I agree that quoting someone is not the same as agreeing with someone.

    However, in this case, this organization quoted Hitler because they agree with Hitler on the point he was making.

    Thats also the source of the association…they didn’t have to bring Hitler into it at all, but they did. If you don’t want to be associated with Hitler, you probably shouldn’t lead a conversation with “we think Hitler was right about this”.

    This is a group that wants to remove books from public school libraries in a state that allows unstructured homeschooling. This isn’t about what their kids see…they already have the option of total control over their own child’s curriculum...this is about limiting what other people’s children can see.

    So to me, this group (without a hint of irony or context) choosing a quote from Hitler about controlling the education of children is as much about what they want to accomplish as it about what they claim they want to avoid.
    So now it's not "They agree with him". Now it's "They agree with the point he was making".

    Hell everyone should agree with the point he was making. He proved that it worked. It's the reason they have been using the same strategy for the last 20+years in this country, disguised as No Child Left Behind.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    Not off limits…nothing of the sort. You are free to associate yourself with Hitler all you want.


    They posted a Hitler quote to the front page of their newsletter because they agree with Hitler.

    Maybe…but without context it looks like a mission statement.

    From Hitler.
    @LeftyGunner OK, the more I have thought about these statements, the more I believe you are trolling.

    So unless you can provide proof that this group indeed supports Hitler's ideals and wasnt just inarticulate, knock it off.

    If not you can join you cohort xmil. Official warning.

    You've been pretty tame and reasonable in the past, but you are getting danger close to the ditches with this one. Show proof or knock it off.
     
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    I agree that quoting someone is not the same as agreeing with someone.

    However, in this case, this organization quoted Hitler because they agree with Hitler on the point he was making.

    Thats also the source of the association…they didn’t have to bring Hitler into it at all, but they did. If you don’t want to be associated with Hitler, you probably shouldn’t lead a conversation with “we think Hitler was right about this”.

    This is a group that wants to remove books from public school libraries in a state that allows unstructured homeschooling. This isn’t about what their kids see…they already have the option of total control over their own child’s curriculum...this is about limiting what other people’s children can see.

    So to me, this group (without a hint of irony or context) choosing a quote from Hitler about controlling the education of children is as much about what they want to accomplish as it about what they claim they want to avoid.
    I didn't take it that way. I took it as a warning to what public schools are capable of doing to your children. Looks like we've already lost the universities. And some of the books I've seen presented at school board meetings have no business in elementary schools. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
     

    Sigblitz

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    From their news letter, 'change and parent control over their child's education.'
    I see the AH quote as a warning the kids are being groomed in public school.
    Is this evidence the government is filtering Hitler ideals through the school system with it's mandates? Probably not, but I can see the correlation and why someone may want to deflect this on to the group that called it out.
    Thank you for posting this. It's more evidence the kids are being groomed in public schools and links the groomers ideals to, you know the thing, that guy.
     

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    Yes. and by merely pointing this out, you must be a nazi. :dunno:
    So I guess if I pointed out that "Everything within the state, nothing against the state, nothing outside the state." looks an awful lot like the current US leftist game plan, I would be 'demonstrating knowledge of the thoughts of the father of modern fascism', and that wouldn't be useful to give me historical perspective on leftist actions but would instead make ME likely to be a fascist
     

    jamil

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    The Hamilton County chapter of ”Moms for Liberty” have gone full retard and made the national news.

    First, they decided to quote Adolph Hitler on the front page of their inaugural Newsletter:


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    Then they tried to “well actually” their way out of it:



    After realizing how deeply they had actually stepped in it, they finally issued a sane press release:



    Which might be believable if “Moms for Liberty” Twitter account had not tweeted (and deleted) “the 14 words” on the very same day:

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    What is it with MAGA and white supremacist talking points? Do you want people to associate you with the Nazis? In case you were wondering, this is why you get called Nazis by the rest of the political spectrum.

    Personally, I’m glad to see the blowback…I hate Indiana nazis.

    I don't really know much about this group other than the local news reporting that they got into a tiff with the alphabet people in Bloomington. The first issue with the Hitler quote, isn't a positive indicator of Nazism. Like many others here, when I saw it in the image you posted, it looked like a warning. Like they were saying that Hitler said that, and the groomer clown people are executing Hitler's words.

    But, if that tweet is real, that's a red flag. I can't automatically assume it's real without spending time to vet it. Because even formerly trust worthy news sources have shown themselves to be liars when their ideology is challenged.

    So, at this point, I have no idea if these people are real ass Nazis, or a group being cast as Nazis to support cultural narratives.

    I not only hate Nazis, I hate all ideologues who try to force unnatural cultural changes upon a free society. So the clown people on your side are to me as dangerous as the Nazis. Their ideology will build to bring about the same kind of atrocities on mankind.
     

    jamil

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    I think the biggest mistake this organization made was assuming people were sharp enough to get the meaning of the quote, but here we are.

    My question is why are leftists so intent on putting explicit material in schools, and why do so many dem voters so strongly defend it?

    They can push depictions of children having oral sex with other children. They can subject children to men dressed as women shoving their junk in girls faces. They can support mutilating children without commensurate scientific confidence that they're doing the right thing.

    News reports on a group's quoting of Hitler--because merely quoting Hitler can only ever have the purpose they attached to it--as if they're the good guys reporting on bad guys. As if what the media is pushing is not bringing society to the same point Hitler did. I mean. It's okay to hate both. It's NORMAL to hate both. If this group is Nazi, sure. Condemn them. But also condemn all bad ideologies at work in society today.
     

    jamil

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    What is it with MAGA and white supremacist talking points? Do you want people to associate you with the Nazis? In case you were wondering, this is why you get called Nazis by the rest of the political spectrum.

    Personally, I’m glad to see the blowback…I hate Indiana nazis.
    I forgot to address the MAGA part of this. I think you put a lot more trust in media than I do. Media has provided the MAGA/WS link to a much greater extent than actual MAGA people have. I probably know more MAGA people than I know progressives, even though almost everyone I work with is progressive. I don't know anyone who espouses white nationalism. Anecdotal, yeah. But that's my perspective.

    We have this saying out in the country. The demand for racism far exceeds the supply. So much so that woke progressives have had to redefine racism as something else so they'd have something to point at. Remember Juicy Smollett? Progressives were incapable of discerning that was ********, because they believed in a reality that doesn't exist. Lower Wacker Drive in Chicago IS NOT MAGA COUNTRY, but half the nation was convinced that really happened.

    It's why many of us read that Hitler quote and assumed it was a warning that this is what progressives are doing. It's something we call "grooming". It's something that the clown people have admitted they're doing.

    The only evidence you presented that should cause an objective person pause is the deleted tweet. Like I said, it's a red flag if true. But it's reasonable to be skeptical the deleted tweet is real, given the things the media has been willing to fabricate in the past.
     
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    jamil

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    Democrats killed sixty million Jews?

    You got a source for that, or are you just talking out of your ass in defense of Nazis?
    Well. The world based on the ideology woke people are proposing killed at least 10 times that number. They oppose the enlightenment principles that brought freedom to the West. Not as free as it could be, but it's been freer than other societies in human history. And progressives don't appear to like that.
     
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    I agree that quoting someone is not the same as agreeing with someone.

    However, in this case, this organization quoted Hitler because they agree with Hitler on the point he was making.

    Thats also the source of the association…they didn’t have to bring Hitler into it at all, but they did. If you don’t want to be associated with Hitler, you probably shouldn’t lead a conversation with “we think Hitler was right about this”.

    This is a group that wants to remove books from public school libraries in a state that allows unstructured homeschooling. This isn’t about what their kids see…they already have the option of total control over their own child’s curriculum...this is about limiting what other people’s children can see.

    So to me, this group (without a hint of irony or context) choosing a quote from Hitler about controlling the education of children is as much about what they want to accomplish as it about what they claim they want to avoid.
    Dude, you are way off base here. They specifically say they are fighting against government control. They should have put context in the original flyer, but they do not come across as agreeing with Nazis.
     
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