Government response to Boston Marathon bombs; warrantless searches & soldiers

[rambone]

Police search a bicyclist's backpack as he tries to pedal through the occupied town of Watertown, MA.

 

[srad]

Reports different times today of flash bombs & shots fired in different locations in Watertown. Who's firing & what are they shooting at???

Maybe following Old Joe's tactics of shoot first & open the door to see what you got afterwards.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Reports different times today of flash bombs & shots fired in different locations in Watertown. Who's firing & what are they shooting at???

Maybe following Old Joe's tactics of shoot first & open the door to see what you got afterwards.

Brought in the LAPD maybe

 

[Sgtusmc]

We won't know "the truth" til the story has been vetted and it's believable to the average joe.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Reports different times today of flash bombs & shots fired in different locations in Watertown. Who's firing & what are they shooting at???

Happy fire.

People do not shoot because they have a target, they shoot to make themselves feel better.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Looks like he got away.

Police having news conference now telling people to "remain vigiliant".

Yeah, we'll do that Chief Wiggum, thanks.

 

[rambone]

Looks like he got away.

Police having news conference now telling people to "remain vigiliant".

Yeah, we'll do that Chief Wiggum, thanks.

Wonder how many tens of millions of dollars that cost? It isn't cheap to shut down all commerce and transportation in a major U.S. city.

The terrorists are clearly winning.

 

[rambone]

Lindsey Graham: Reading Miranda Rights to bombing suspect ‘a bad idea’

 

[88GT]

you know for sure they aren't part of a larger cell?

Yup. I think it's almost a guarantee they have at least some connections, even if they aren't members per se. I also wonder if said connections aren't in part responsible for #2 remaining on the lam as long as he has. He's been online since last night making posts. Who else is he communicating with?

Wonder how many tens of millions of dollars that cost? It isn't cheap to shut down all commerce and transportation in a major U.S. city.

The terrorists are clearly winning.

What is an appropriate amount of money to catch a criminal/terrorist?

I'd like to know what your view of the terrorists losing would look like. I also don't think they really give a flip that there's any infringements taking place. Something about trying to kill people instead of lobbying for more laws.

 

[srad]

Happy fire.

People do not shoot because they have a target, they shoot to make themselves feel better.

Yeah I guess. I do that all the time... not on the streets in the middle of town though.

 

[Destro]

The terrorists are clearly winning.

that should give you something to smile about while you sleep peacefully tonight

 

[SmileDocHill]

I respectfully disagree.

Just because you say you are being respectful doesn't make it so.

I think it's pretty spot on....

Rambo is giving opinions about policies and others. INGO rules are clear to not post attacks or insults about other members.


This is the in thread warning, no further personal attacks or insults.

 

[Sgtusmc]

Don't we all know by now the definition of terrorism and it's intent?

Killing bodies is just one aspect of it. Furthering fear and disruption of the flow of 'normality' is the lasting effect. Terrorists around the world are figuratively doing the fist pump as police and military line our streets and go through our homes and search our belongings.

With this in mind, either our officials are naively falling for it or they're doing it with ulterior motives.

 

[Pinchaser]

Contrats to all of the Fed, State and Local LE involved in getting both of these pieces of ****. Good work.

 

[wrigleycub]

I fail to see the reasoning in having SWAT or State Police units wearing camouflage. Black works just fine--and makes it easier for us to denote them as police units vs. military. I've not been happy with the use of military, even national guard troops, in response to this.

It's easier to get state and federal workers to commit crimes if they are dressed in costumes, and fill them with the false bravado of feeling like the military warrior a majority of them never were!

 

[Bunnykid68]

Don't we all know by now the definition of terrorism and it's intent?

Killing bodies is just one aspect of it. Furthering fear and disruption of the flow of 'normality' is the lasting effect. Terrorists around the world are figuratively doing the fist pump as police and military line our streets and go through our homes and search our belongings.

With this in mind, either our officials are naively falling for it or they're doing it with ulterior motives.

This is also part of their motives IMO

 

[rambone]

What is an appropriate amount of money to catch a criminal/terrorist?

Depends on the budget of the city and what they can afford. Shutting down the entire city over one man was entirely inappropriate and insanely expensive. That's a lot of commerce pissed away.

For some perspective, recall that dozens of people are shot to death in Chicago every weekend. Should that be reason to shut down the city to apprehend all the offenders?

I'd like to know what your view of the terrorists losing would look like. I also don't think they really give a flip that there's any infringements taking place. Something about trying to kill people instead of lobbying for more laws.

You can't measure a terrorist's victory or defeat on his physical survival. Particularly when they are suicide bombers! All of these criminals could be caught or killed and it wouldn't change the outcome of their presumed mission.

The definition of terrorism involves coercion, especially for political gain. So, look at what they have coerced America to do. The reaction to terrorism is worse than the terrorism itself. If America loses its freedom, destroys the constitution, and becomes a police state, then there is absolutely no way that we should pat ourselves on the back and call ourselves winners.

A failed terrorist is one who fails to cause a coerced political reaction.

 

[88GT]

This is also part of their motives IMO

I don't know. I think body count is primary. To the point of rendering other reasons negligible. They still bomb in places who are normalized to this kind of existence. People adapt. At the risk of legitimizing Bloomberg's (I think it was him) comments, this could easily become a new normal for us. If it did, the fear factor is rendered moot to a large degree. But they will always, always come back for body count.

 

[in625shooter]

Contrats to all of the Fed, State and Local LE involved in getting both of these pieces of ****. Good work.

^^THIS^

It's easier to get state and federal workers to commit crimes if they are dressed in costumes, and fill them with the false bravado of feeling like the military warrior a majority of them never were!

REALLY! What crime is any agencies commiting. As far as random searches etc there were non until the main manhunt started 3 days later. When there is an attack with 2 bombs killing 3 injuring 179 plus 2 suspects then when closing in another act of violence Thats a pretty good example of resonable suspision which is legal. This is much different than a normal workday with nothing bad going on.

Also you might want to recheck your stats becuase although down some there is still a large percentage of Federal and state LE personnel that served in the US Military.

 

[Destro]

Depends on the budget of the city and what they can afford. Shutting down the entire city over one man was entirely inappropriate and insanely expensive. That's a lot of commerce pissed away.

For some perspective, recall that dozens of people are shot to death in Chicago every weekend. Should that be reason to shut down the city to apprehend all the offenders?


You can't measure a terrorist's victory or defeat on his physical survival. Particularly when they are suicide bombers! All of these criminals could be caught or killed and it wouldn't change the outcome of their presumed mission.

The definition of terrorism involves coercion, especially for political gain. So, look at what they have coerced America to do. The reaction to terrorism is worse than the terrorism itself. If America loses its freedom, destroys the constitution, and becomes a police state, then there is absolutely no way that we should pat ourselves on the back and call ourselves winners.

A failed terrorist is one who fails to cause a coerced political reaction.

you NEVER offer ANY REALISTIC ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE....or is that a personal attack too?