Go It Alone United Kingdom!

[BugI02]

Make Britain Great Again

 

[Mikey1911]

“But Boris, dahlink . . . “

 

[Thor]

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson was born to British parents on 19 June 1964 on the Upper East Side of Manhattan in 1964. Maybe he'll run for president next.

 

[Sylvain]

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson was born to British parents on 19 June 1964 on the Upper East Side of Manhattan in 1964. Maybe he'll run for president next.

He gave up his US citizenship though.
He would still be a natural-born citizen but not currently a citizen.Not sure how it works.

 

[Alamo]

He gave up his US citizenship though.
He would still be a natural-born citizen but not currently a citizen.Not sure how it works.

The IRS drove him away. I doubt he'd want to come back even for President.

 

[HoughMade]

The IRS drove him away. I doubt he'd want to come back even for President.

First time I've ever heard of someone choosing the U.K. over the U.S. on the basis of taxes.

 

[Kutnupe14]

First time I've ever heard of someone choosing the U.K. over the U.S. on the basis of taxes.

Does the UK tax people twice like we do?

 

[Alamo]

First time I've ever heard of someone choosing the U.K. over the U.S. on the basis of taxes.

Actually he was choosing "taxed only by UK" over "taxed by US and UK."


He sold a London townhouse for a large sum, and was dunned for capital gains taxes by the IRS even though the transaction was entirely British, because he was a US citizen. He fought with them about it, finally paid a "six figure" tax bill because he needed to visit the US for business, and said "screw this" or words to that effect and turned in his US passport.


Here we go: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2015/02/19/an-englishmans-home

 

[Leadeye]

Does the UK tax people twice like we do?

If 5 percent should seem to small,

be glad that I don't take it all.

Cause I'm the tax man, yeah, tax man.

 

[Sylvain]

Actually he was choosing "taxed only by UK" over "taxed by US and UK."


He sold a London townhouse for a large sum, and was dunned for capital gains taxes by the IRS even though the transaction was entirely British, because he was a US citizen. He fought with them about it, finally paid a "six figure" tax bill because he needed to visit the US for business, and said "screw this" or words to that effect and turned in his US passport.


Here we go: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2015/02/19/an-englishmans-home

Btw folks have to pay to renounce they US citizenship, you can't just give it up by sending your US passport.

Some dual citizens folks can't affort to renounce their US citizenship and have to keep paying taxes in the US when they live abroad.

It was free before 2010.Then it was $450, now it's $2,350.

According to Movehub, the U.S. has the highest fees in the world to renounce citizenship at $2,350. The U.S. was criticized for hiking its fee to renounce by 422%, from $450 to $2,350.

 

[NKBJ]

I'd be happy if dual citizenship (divided loyalty) people were expelled from public service.

 

[Sylvain]

I'd be happy if dual citizenship (divided loyalty) people were expelled from public service.

You can be loyal to two different countries.

Some members of congress have a dual citizens (some probably don't disclose it).
Ted Cruz gave up his Canadian citizenship during the presidential campaign but he had a dual citizenship as senator for years before that.

It should at least be disclosed to make sure there's no conflict of interest.

I think only the US military require officers to give up any dual citizenship they might have.

 

[BugI02]

He gave up his US citizenship though.
He would still be a natural-born citizen but not currently a citizen.Not sure how it works.

I believe there is a requirement to have been a resident (not just a citizen) of the US continuously for 12 or 14 years prior to running, so Boris would have to retire here and run in 2035 or 2036 (allowing 3 to 4 years at #10)

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I believe there is a requirement to have been a resident (not just a citizen) of the US continuously for 12 or 14 years prior to running, so Boris would have to retire here and run in 2035 or 2036 (allowing 3 to 4 years at #10)

14 yrs a resident, doesn't say anything about it being continuous or immediately prior to running.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

 

[NKBJ]

The US has a bigger problem with dual citizenship divided loyalties in elected and appointed positions than it ever has with our allies' espionage operations against us. Well, perhaps in light of whodunnit with the attempted coup against the current president that statement should be amended to insert an "almost" in there concerning our so called allies but none the less, we got a big problem. How to solve it? Beats me. After all, you can't get most citizens to vote and you can't get most voters to look at who their voting for.

 

[Phase2]

So, why has Brexit still not happened three years after the public voted it in? Politicians that don't represent the public will:

 

[Leadeye]

Brexit represents a shift in money and power, leadership is always uncomfortable about the unknown when it comes to these things. I rather doubt that the various UK MPs are the ones makng the decisions, lots of behind the scenes players from around the globe weighing in.

 

[Phase2]

I rather doubt that the various UK MPs are the ones makng the decisions, lots of behind the scenes players from around the globe weighing in.

If the UK reps (MPs) aren't making the decisions on their own votes, then there certainly isn't any reason to keep them. Hence Boris Johnson's decision to purge 21 "conservative" MPs that cast votes against their own voters express wishes.

 

[JettaKnight]

So, why has Brexit still not happened three years after the public voted it in?

Because it's insanely hard to "disconnect" and restore all those old border checks and trade rules.

 

[Phase2]

Because it's insanely hard to "disconnect" and restore all those old border checks and trade rules.

Obstructionist BS. It doesn't take three years to setup checkpoints and trade rules.