France is on Fire

[COOPADUP]

Thanks Sylvain! Spoon fed media is all I saw.
He was in the wrong it appears.

 

[Sylvain]

Thanks Sylvain! Spoon fed media is all I saw.
He was in the wrong it appears.

The driver was clearly in the wrong.
Now was the officer justified to shoot that's another thing.
For now the police officer is in jail and charged with voluntary manslaughter.
The officer was not directly in front of the car, so his life was not directly threatened according to a judge.
At the same time the officer would be justified to shoot in order to save the lives of others, like pedestrians ...

 

[Sylvain]

Some people are mostly mad because the person killed was "just a kid".
Even though he was illegally driving a car at high speed and running red lights.

He was driving a powerful Mercedes AMG, probably costing over $60K, with over 300hp ...
No idea how and where he got it.
You need a valid driver's licence and to be over 21 to rent a car.
Drug money? Of course nobody is talking about that.

 

[hopper68]

I like how the tweet by "Concerned Citizen" states that there is "Zero coverage from our fake news mainstream media of course" yet this story is at or near the top of the homepage on just about all of the traditional "fake news media" outlets.

NPR - Top of the homepage. Don't even have to scroll down, at all.
CNN - Top of the homepage is "France Unrest" which is also THE lead store in the World section.
WaPo - 2nd from the top story in the World section, don't even have to scroll down, at all.
NYT - Lead story in the World section, don't even have to scroll down, at all.

Any other of the big name usual "fake news" suspects I overlooked?

Peculiarly enough the odd bedfellows on this story are traditonally mortal enemies - FoxNews and Slate, both of which I could not find any coverage of the situation in France.

If "Concerned Citizen" isn't interested in fact checking his own easily fact-checkable claims, one would be wise to take any of his other word vomit with a very large grain of salt.

So you found the articles in the world section, not the plain news section. Did you do the same for Fox news?

 

[Route 45]

Riot map

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Effectiveness of France’s gun laws on display.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Effectiveness of France’s gun laws on display.

I'd be careful with that argument in case someone starts comparing homicide rates per capita.

 

[Flingarrows]

French Fries.

And toast

 

[manifest destiny]

I'd be careful with that argument in case someone starts comparing homicide rates per capita.

I'd be careful with that argument in case someone starts comparing freedoms per country.

 

[miguel]

And at which point do you start stacking them like cordwood until the rest decide they wont want to be the one stacked?

Now?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I'd be careful with that argument in case someone starts comparing freedoms per country.

No, that's exactly the argument you want and where I was leading. "Effectiveness" may not be our friend when comparing between our country and one with a homicide rate roughly 1/6th of ours per capita . When people want to make the point one way they bring out culture and demographics, etc. You can't then also argue ha, riots because gun control while ignoring we had riots, we had murders, and the numbers aren't even remotely the same. Don't lay your chips where they are likely to be swept up.

 

[cg21]

No, that's exactly the argument you want and where I was leading. "Effectiveness" may not be our friend when comparing between our country and one with a homicide rate roughly 1/6th of ours per capita . When people want to make the point one way they bring out culture and demographics, etc. You can't then also argue ha, riots because gun control while ignoring we had riots, we had murders, and the numbers aren't even remotely the same. Don't lay your chips where they are likely to be swept up.

Looking at the “per capita” numbers we really aren’t that far off from France.. (1.3 vs 6.4) I wouldn’t want to help make up the difference but the numbers are fairly close. And per capita numbers get you CLOSE but I think population density plays a big role also and it is swept under the rug with per capita being the end all.

 

[Leadeye]

Never have been to France, do cities there have the militant drug/thug culture found here in the states or something else?

 

[Indyhd]

Looking at the “per capita” numbers we really aren’t that far off from France.. (1.3 vs 6.4) I wouldn’t want to help make up the difference but the numbers are fairly close. And per capita numbers get you CLOSE but I think population density plays a big role also and it is swept under the rug with per capita being the end all.

If 1.3 and 6.4 are close I want to be in the banking business next time you are looking for a mortgage.

 

[buckwacker]

Looking at the “per capita” numbers we really aren’t that far off from France.. (1.3 vs 6.4) I wouldn’t want to help make up the difference but the numbers are fairly close. And per capita numbers get you CLOSE but I think population density plays a big role also and it is swept under the rug with per capita being the end all.

You do realize 6.4 is 5X 1.3 right? I wouldnt call a difference of half an order of magnitude, close.

 

[KellyinAvon]

The chaos continued into Saturday morning as 1,311 arrests were made across the country Friday night and 2,500 fires were reported, according to the interior ministry, who noted that there were fewer fires and attacks on police stations than the night before.

(40K, that's a lot.)
Despite the higher number of arrests compared to the 917 on Thursday night, the government suggested the violence was beginning to tamp down because of the deployment of 40,000 police officers on Thursday.

(French Guiana is in South America. Being killed by a stray bullet is considered death by natural causes there.)
Though the massive presence of at least 45,000 officers Friday night didn't deter demonstrators as havoc remained across several cities, including Paris, Marseille, Lyon and French territories overseas. According to The Associated Press, a 54-year-old died after being hit by a stray bullet in French Guiana.

(You're doing it wrong, Francois. Set the dumpsters on fire.)
Firefighters in the Parisian suburb of Nanterre extinguished fires set by demonstrators that scorched cars on Saturday, and in the neighboring town of Colombes, protesters overturned garbage bins to use them for makeshift barricades.

(This is starting to sound familiar.)
The unidentified police officer accused of killing Nahel was given a preliminary charge of voluntary homicide. Preliminary charges mean investigating magistrates strongly suspect wrongdoing but need to gather additional information before sending a case to trial.

Nanterre prosecutor Pascal Prache said his initial investigation led him to the belief that the officer’s use of his weapon lacked legal justification.

Over 1,300 arrested across France during fourth night of riots sparked by police killing of teen

Over 1,300 people were arrested across France Friday night and into Saturday morning following chaotic riots in response to the police killing of 17-year-old Nahel M.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Sylvain]

Never have been to France, do cities there have the militant drug/thug culture found here in the states or something else?

I'm not sure I understand your question.
Are you asking about drug trafficking in large cities/suburbs?

 

[Sylvain]

I went out to several stores in my area.
No trace of riots or looting whatsoever.
It's business as usual.

If you watch the news you think the entire country is on fire.

 

[cg21]

So I guess what I am saying is France is closer to the size / population of a STATE not our entire country. A closer comparison would be Texas / France. Maybe there is a better comparison in size/population maybe I am wrong in thinking this way? But I think a state compared to france is a more accurate representation.

 

[cg21]

I went out to several stores in my area.
No trace of riots or looting whatsoever.
It's business as usual.

If you watch the news you think the entire country is on fire.

We in the states are VERY accustom to
similar reporting lol