Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

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  • Ark

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    Well, congrats. You got your wish. Morons.

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    Hopefully our society does some sick flips on our way off the cliff.
     
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    IndyGal65

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    I’m not left. I’m a conservative with common sense. I...
    -am pro-LE/MIL
    -am a Baptist
    -don’t believe in 2A restrictions
    -Don’t believe in welfare without work
    -Don’t believe in reparations
    -Would mine the southern border
    -Don’t believe in abortion but think the state should have no say in that matter
    -Believe in standing for the flag, but will protect other people’s right not to
    -Think Capitalism is the superior system, but is complimented by certain types of socialism (funding roads, schools, Military)

    People erroneously say in a leftist because whenever they vilify anyone who isn’t a Republican with the most ridiculous, off the wall, idiotic arguments; I point out how dumb it is. I also have no problem voting for a Democrat if I think Republicans are becoming too radical, and need to be taken down a peg. And yes, I think Republicans (or rather the Trumper wing) have become more radicalized. When you have people talking about “White Genocide” because a White police officer was convicted by 12 people for killing a Black man (a very rare occurrence, mind you), you know something has gone really, really wrong.
    What makes you think I’m a leftist? What issue have I vocal support for, that would make me a lefty? :dunno:
    BWAHAHAHA!! Oh wait, you were serious?

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    BugI02

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    I bet some Black folks wanted to kill white folks in the 19th century.

    Explain the difference between that viewpoint and how BLM is synonymous with Burn, Loot, Murder as a homogeneous group. Or how black on black crime gets used as an excuse.

    Of the black folks one knows, how many have changed their viewpoints over the last decade? I haven't seen any change in the 2, yes 2, that I know and interact with on a regular basis. So in my lived experience, 0%.

    I don't trust the mainstream media narrative or social media or gateway pundit. All of them are just wanting to serve an agenda. They all amplify anything that will serve their agenda and/or increase revenues.

    Is it more prevalent? sure seems so. Is it mainstream? I doubt it. This stuff ebbs and flows, just like slavery, freedom, back to second class citizen, then granted rights but still suppressed....I am sure that has an emotional affect. Hatred->exhilaration->disappointment->struggle->victory->impatience with enforcement and implementation

    Its just like gun violence. It seems like there is more of it because it's all you hear about, when in fact the numbers are declining, if my memory is correct.

    It's hard to acknowledge or deny something when the information on which to base such a decision is severely distorted. I'll just go with my lived experience.
    It just always seems that you are championing nuance and individuality where one side of the argument is concerned while apportioning collective guilt to the other

    Sophist, heal thyself
     

    jamil

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    If we were to go on a case by case basis (as it should be) so far this and the Floyd incident that democrats and protestors are holding up as examples of "systemic racism" don't pass muster.
    Yep. And whether one thinks Floyd was guilty or not, if they think Chauvin’s actions were motivated by race, they’re likely racists themselves.
     

    gregr

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    Ummm....Isn't holding people accountable for their actions justice?
    They NEVER wanted justice, they want their agenda fulfilled. Look, if they wanted "justice", they`d address the staggering amount of fatherless homes. They`d address the daily bloodshed in the streets in their neighborhoods. They`d address the issues in the culture that are CAUSED by the culture. Everyone needs to assimilate into the American way, and stop living in a sub-culture that glorifies violence, and the baby-mamma/baby-daddy disaster, and they`d adopt culture of education, hard work, and accountability and self-reliance. Take a look at the daily numbers of killed and wounded in the streets of Baltimore, Detroit, Indianapolis, Chicago, St. Louis. There`s much that could be said here, but then, you didn`t want all that.
     

    DadSmith

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    Here is a good read it's part of an article I came across.

    "As for the race-oriented power angle, the aforementioned Rufo mentioned that American leftists at some point made a tactical shift. “Abandoning Marx’s economic dialectic of capitalists and workers,” he stated, “they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories.”

    Remember that as Chinese general Sun Tzu pointed out, you attack where your opponent is weak. The United States is far richer than was 1917 Russia, but also far more balkanized. This means that playing the class-warfare card won’t yield fruit here the way it did there (though it’s still used to an extent).

    But the race-card can.

    And does.

    As a Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) radical said in the 1960s, “The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution” to the power mongers. And the revolution continues apace as most Americans sleep." -

    Selwyn Duke​

     

    foszoe

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    Give it time. We didn't say 'they will riot the next day by 3 pm'

    Now do 'Biden isn't coming for your guns'

    Curious to see if you can do strict interpretation when it is the left/democrats being evaluated. Were we wrong about that because we didn't correctly specify the exact day?
    You missed a few posts...
     

    femurphy77

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    Already seeing people interviewed on the news saying that this wasn't "justice". This was just "accountability". They will never be satisfied.
    They don't want satisfaction, they just want. I don't think you could put together a coalition of any number that could put together a list of wants that all could agree on. Justice is the word du jour but ask them to define justice and I imagine it gets dicey.

    Portable goal posts and all that.
     

    KG1

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    Yep. And whether one thinks Floyd was guilty or not, if they think Chauvin’s actions were motivated by race, they’re likely racists themselves.
    It's this "systemic racism" mentality constantly being pushed for every single one of these incidents that are keeping the fires stoked. They are attempting to do it again with the Columbus Ohio incident.

    Case in point. Lebron James posted a tweet with a picture of the officer who shot a black teen that was attempting to stab another teen with a knife.

    The now deleted tweet said "You're next" Nevermind the officer made the split decision in order to save another teens life.

    They are seriously over playing their hand.
     
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    foszoe

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    It just always seems that you are championing nuance and individuality where one side of the argument is concerned while apportioning collective guilt to the other

    Sophist, heal thyself
    Who what conservative or right leaning group do you think I do that to or example do you have so that I can live the examined life?
     

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    tbhausen

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    It’s really simple, guys. Once Floyd was no longer a threat, once it was clear he was losing consciousness, the focus should have gone from detaining him to helping him. Was it murder? I think most of us can agree that no, it wasn’t. But manslaughter? Quite arguably so. The man was clearly having the life drain out of him right before their eyes and Chauvin cold-bloodedly not only kept him restrained, but overruled putting him in the recovery position. That’s not right, it’s morally bankrupt, no matter how bad of a person Floyd was. This didn’t have to happen. One tiny little bit of common sense and compassion and this would not have happened. It can and should lead to a small but important change in policing. I wrote “small but important” because obviously this doesn’t happen very often. If Floyd’s death in the aftermath leads to this common sense and compassion in even one future case, that’s a good thing. The danger is, of course, that officers will be placed in increased danger due to changes in use of force policies. I think the biggest danger, though, will be emboldening of criminals and the mob who view this as revenge or a success rather than an entirely avoidable tragedy we can all learn from.
     
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