Florida stand your ground. Dont play stupid games

[HoughMade]

...Despite your scenario being unlikely, I think that a cop shooting an unarmed man who is backing away would not play well, either. Maybe worse, since the cop should be better trained.

I am reasonably positive that if this had been a police officer doing the shooting....the uproar would make the present situation look like afternoon tea.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

You cannot begin to make that comparison, because of the totality of the circumstances. A cop has a duty to enforce the law, so it would have been reasonable for him to speak with the woman in the car. If the boyfriend actually came out of the store and pushed a uniformed police officer to the ground, this is much more serious than pushing some random person, as the assailant knows that he is pushing a police officer. There is a reason that crimes against police officers are generally enhanced offenses. The idea is that the attack is against not only the cop, but against society and law and order.

This speaks to the mindset of the attacker. Is it reasonable to think that the mindset of someone who attacks a uniformed police officer may be more dangerous than someone who pushes a random stranger away to protect his girlfriend and child? I would say yes. That being said, a police officer will probably still not shoot in this situation if he draws and the perp backs up. Cops go hand to hand all the time. They use retention holsters. They have other defensive tools at their disposal.

Despite your scenario being unlikely, I think that a cop shooting an unarmed man who is backing away would not play well, either. Maybe worse, since the cop should be better trained.

I completely agree, I was just making the point if a cop made this shot I’m betting a lot of people who are saying this is a good shoot would be saying it was a bad shoot if a cop did it.

 

[Denny347]

3 seconds. That is how long the shooter pointed the pistol at the guy before pulling the trigger. 3 seconds to decide if the person in your sights needs shot. 3 seconds to observe body language to assess threat level. When judgements need to be made in milliseconds, 6 seconds is "days" in reaction time world. Another example of a person who carries and has two choices for ALL situations he encounters...shoot or don't shoot. There is no in between for him. He is either helpless or shoots. Like I said earlier, when you only carry a hammer every problem is a nail.

 

[Denny347]

I am reasonably positive that if this had been a police officer doing the shooting....the uproar would make the present situation look like afternoon tea.

I'd be quite loud in my critique if this was an officer...maybe even more than I am now.

 

[Vigilant]

From what I saw, it looks less like Cap'n Sav-a-Spot was yelling until maybe the lady took affront to being corrected, and started yelling at him, causing him to become more animated? Still, without audio it's all guesswork.

 

[Pyro]

From what I saw, it looks less like Cap'n Sav-a-Spot was yelling until maybe the lady took affront to being corrected, and started yelling at him, causing him to become more animated? Still, without audio it's all guesswork.

Agreed, especially in the longer video his body language is non-aggressive. Based on my limited ability to call this I "feel" he had time to decide not to fire but ... I wasn't there, the guy above him is big, he's just been shoved hard to the ground and the "attacker" is still standing over him.

 

[Benp]

Some people carry a firearm for protection, for themselves and/or for others that need help. This guy looks like he carried because he got a sense of power from it. Then when someone challenged his power trip he wasn't prepared for it and he either got so scared that he shot or he was very angry when he shot.

 

[HoughMade]

Some people carry a firearm for protection, for themselves and/or for others that need help. This guy looks like he carried because he got a sense of power from it. Then when someone challenged his power trip he wasn't prepared for it and he either got so scared that he shot or he was very angry when he shot.

Reports are that he was known for confronting people over handicap parking spaces.

Gunman confronted another man weeks before fatal shooting
Video: Florida man shot, killed during parking spot dispute - WSMV News 4
https://www.theroot.com/gunman-in-stand-your-ground-shooting-of-black-man-had-h-1827829356

The store owner said that Drejka has a history of assaulting people in the very parking lot the shooting took place. A man who frequents the store said he had a run-in with Drejka just one month ago.
Rich Kelly says the man picked a fight with him over a parking spot, using racial slurs, and even threatening to kill him.

No information I've seen that he, himself needs to use a handicap space.

Also, this:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/mcglockton-shooting-gun-owners-outraged/

Compounding the injustice is Drejka’s own absurd conduct. An armed citizen should not be mall-copping his way through life, initiating confrontations. And that’s especially true if you’re a grown man interacting with a young woman. There are many, many men who (quite reasonably, I might add) will react physically if they see a strange man confronting their wife or girlfriend.

 

[JettaKnight]

He lives a pretty active life... I assume he takes a break at 4 pm for the County Kitchen's early bird senior citizen special.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

He lives a pretty active life... I assume he takes a break at 4 pm for the County Kitchen's early bird senior citizen special.

Think he’s ever pulled his gun for someone cutting in line?

 

[Benp]

Think he’s ever pulled his gun for someone cutting in line?

I'm sure that would just call for a knifing, but now if he knifed and then they shoved then yes.

 

[Denny347]

He lives a pretty active life... I assume he takes a break at 4 pm for the County Kitchen's early bird senior citizen special.

5PM is when us elderly folks go eat.

 

[Route 45]

5PM is when us elderly folks go eat.

They might have a different schedule at his nursing home.
5PM is kinda late, especially if you've been out in the Florida sun all day saving the world from illegal parking.

 

[racegunz]

The whole thing is surprisingly polarizing. I expected everyone to see it as the firm shade of grey it is but a lot of people see it very black or white. No way would the shooter want this to go to a jury.

Agreed, if he can’t find sympathy here it will be tough if Florida!

 

[Route 45]

Sen. Nelson calls on DOJ to investigate Clearwater shooting

 

[KLB]

How on Earth do they think this is a civil rights violation, other then the color of the skin of the those involved?

Or maybe they think that the Feds can just enforce any law they want them to.

 

[KellyinAvon]

How on Earth do they think this is a civil rights violation, other then the color of the skin of the those involved?

Or maybe they think that the Feds can just enforce any law they want them to.

The usual suspects who signed the letter probably know a lot of Holder holdovers are in that division. Alcee Hastings, a former federal judge who was impeached and removed from the bench for corruption. Two Florida dug-in opportunists and the other two are pretty close to being communists.

 

[BugI02]

And if Hillary had been making those supreme court picks, they would be right

The Feds could enforce any law they wanted to

 

[hopper68]

Sen. Nelson calls on DOJ to investigate Clearwater shooting

This BS would likely not be happening if the shooter had been charged to begin with.

 

[Spike Jones 5 2002]

Nope, not justified in my opinion. Once he pulled his gun the other guy backed off and dropped his aggressive stance THEN he shot him. I would feel different had he shot him while the guy was advancing with his gonna kick some butt stance.

As I watched the video several times. After the aggressor shoved the old man to the ground. He immediately took a step towards the downed man. Then backed off. When he seen the man draw.
He should have backed off before assaulting the old man.

“I would feel different had he shot him while the guy was advancing with his gonna kick some butt stance.”
No assault = “murder”!