As bstewrat said above, SOME firefighters (in SOME jurisdictions) do indeed have police powers.
In some citys they are call public safety officers and are both FF and LEOs, but not here.
Generally associated with things done in relation to scene control, investigation, etc etc. I'm pretty sure that fire marshals have much more policing powers than many of us know.
All Our Arson Investigators go through IMPD's academy. Given a badge and a glock.
I also don't think that IFD, if this was the Dept in question, grants LE responsibilities. I claim ignorance on that one.
IFD only has some police type positions... SWAT medics and Arson investigators, neither could care less about a LTCH
Whatever powers a certain FF might have in a certain jurisdiction, I'd be willing to bet that trying to start a de facto Terry stop is NOT covered by their "powers"; especially since it's not anything at all related to the fire fighter job duties.
Still doesn't excuse the behavior of this officer in this instance, of course...
-J-
What a couple of jack wagons. Must have been a couple of townies
Most firefighters I know would have asked more questions about you carry piece than the stupid laminated paper you have to buy to haul it around.
Just to toss this out there (even though there are plenty of jackass firefighters also) some of the folks I work with are also part-time cops, not IMPD but generally reserve or county somewhere.
Not the "evil townies"
Good thing it wasn't Chris Lytle...
Is he still a working firefighter in Indy?
You should of told him to go F himself
you got to remember, god put police on this earth so firemen would have heroes... and this fireman was trying to do his heros job
Just something to chew on for a while -
When you really ponder it, a fireman has just as much right to ask for your LTCH as a police officer does when you're simply standing in line for breakfast, not committing any crime. Neither of them should care or bother you.
We have the right to keep and bear arms. I long for the day when one can start a thread about how some clueless officer asked to see a handgun license and the carrier just laughed him off too.
Too bad you ran into a bad apple. Of all the public servants, firemen and EMT's are my favorites.
They don't write me tickets, they don't tell me what to do (of course, I don't eat breakfast at Arbys), but they sure are johnny on the spot when you have a heart attack or wreck your car.
Good for you. I would have asked to see his credentials lol. I show people mine when they didn't know or don't understand that you can in fact carry a gun in public just to help educate them, but wouldn't show someone trying to police my actions. If they ask for it then they know about it. If they aren't a cop it aint none of their business.
the emt's here in hancock county are hit and miss, there was a guy that wrecked his bike on U.S. 52 and was fine walking around and having a smoke to calm down and the emt's showed up and insisted they take him to the hospital when all he wanted to do is go home and relax after the incident but went with them anyways and when they got hancock regional hospital he was dead due to an overdose of drugs the emt's gave him. and the drive was about 15min to the hospital
This cracked me up. He is still at the local fire department. Unfortunately, he was on the wrong end of a unanimous decision last weekend. As usual, though, he pocketed another Fight of the Night bonus.
the emt's here in hancock county are hit and miss, there was a guy that wrecked his bike on U.S. 52 and was fine walking around and having a smoke to calm down and the emt's showed up and insisted they take him to the hospital when all he wanted to do is go home and relax after the incident but went with them anyways and when they got hancock regional hospital he was dead due to an overdose of drugs the emt's gave him. and the drive was about 15min to the hospital
the emt's here in hancock county are hit and miss, there was a guy that wrecked his bike on U.S. 52 and was fine walking around and having a smoke to calm down and the emt's showed up and insisted they take him to the hospital when all he wanted to do is go home and relax after the incident but went with them anyways and when they got hancock regional hospital he was dead due to an overdose of drugs the emt's gave him. and the drive was about 15min to the hospital