Explain Why It's OK To Rain Death From the Sky, Court Tells Obama Administration

[jamil]

I agree but making a guy's grass hut a battlefield by targeting him for the drone strike I guess makes him an enemy combatant on the battlefield? What if your house ever becomes a designated "battlefield"?

 

[Destro]

That's an interesting point. If the military captures an enemy combatant, not knowing they are American, and the interrogate them for Intel, does all that testimony go out the door if the person is tried?

A person who renounces his citizenship and actively conspires against the united states to commit acts of terror while outside the borders of the united states belongs in Gitmo, not federal court. If he were caught in downtown Indianapolis I expect him to be afforded all constitutional protections, regardless of his citizenship.

 

[Destro]

I agree but making a guy's grass hut a battlefield by targeting him for the drone strike I guess makes him an enemy combatant on the battlefield? What if your house ever becomes a designated "battlefield"?

This battlefield is asymmetrical by the choice of the enemy.

 

[JollyMon]

You cant judge me....

 

[Fargo]

That's an interesting point. If the military captures an enemy combatant, not knowing they are American, and the interrogate them for Intel, does all that testimony go out the door if the person is tried?

It doesn't matter if they are American or not, evidence obtained in contravention of the BoR isn't coming in in the civil courts of the U.S. That was the huge problem the govt never got around in IIRC the Padilla case.

 

[RockofStrength]

what does that have to do with drone strikes on enemy combatants?

You might have missed it, but Bundy supporters and the BLMs thugs at one point were a hairsbreadth from engaging in a full on firefight. I don't think Bundy is a saint, but if shots had been fired do all those rights magically vanish because they merely go against the government?

 

[Denny347]

Drone strikes are creating more Jihadists than they are killing, regardless if they are US citizens or not. Imagine the tables turned. That a middle east government targeted a person in the US as a terrorist. They drone strike them on OUR turf. The strike kills the target and everyone in a 100yrd radius. Or worse yet, target the wrong building. Your family get killed, what are you going to do in response? I remember when the IRA was backed by popular support here in the US. Hell, it was fashionable. We are condoning the drone strikes because the CIA says they are terrorists or assisting terrorists yet will not divulge a single piece of evidence to back that up. I am impressed with how little it takes for people to jump on the "kill them all" bandwagon. The government points the finger "terrorists!!!!" and we follow with the pitchforks. Now go drink your Kool-Aid.

 

[aaron580]

You might have missed it, but Bundy supporters and the BLMs thugs at one point were a hairsbreadth from engaging in a full on firefight. I don't think Bundy is a saint, but if shots had been fired do all those rights magically vanish because they merely go against the government?

In this day and age, yes.

 

[Destro]

You might have missed it, but Bundy supporters and the BLMs thugs at one point were a hairsbreadth from engaging in a full on firefight. I don't think Bundy is a saint, but if shots had been fired do all those rights magically vanish because they merely go against the government?

The Bundy ranch is a Law Enforcement issue, not a GWOT issue.

 

[Destro]

In this day and age, yes.

rofl

 

[steveh_131]

Drone strikes are creating more Jihadists than they are killing, regardless if they are US citizens or not. Imagine the tables turned. That a middle east government targeted a person in the US as a terrorist. They drone strike them on OUR turf. The strike kills the target and everyone in a 100yrd radius. Or worse yet, target the wrong building. Your family get killed, what are you going to do in response?

Some estimate that 40-60 new operatives are generated for each terrorist killed by a drone.

Each drone strike creates at least 40 new militants - ex-State Dept. official ? RT USA

“Drone strikes take out a few bad guys to be sure, but they also kill a large number of innocent civilians. Given Yemen’s tribal structure, the US generates roughly forty to sixty new enemies for every AQAP operative killed by drones,” Khoury wrote, referring to Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

 

[Denny347]

Some estimate that 40-60 new operatives are generated for each terrorist killed by a drone.

Each drone strike creates at least 40 new militants - ex-State Dept. official ? RT USA

Yeah, I watched an interview either on PBS Newshour or BBC World News of a woman author from Pakistan documenting this very thing. We are our own worst enemy at times. It is hard to get people past the "Merica, **** yeah" mentality.

 

[rambone]

A person who renounces his citizenship and actively conspires against the united states to commit acts of terror

Prove it. Don't just repeat what Obama said. Where's the evidence? Why should I believe that?

Enemy combatants on the battlefield are not entitled to the same constitutional protections.

There has never been an accusation that Anwar Al Awlaki pulled a trigger in anger. The official story we are supposed to believe is that he wrote emails to radical people. Confusing that with "combat" on a "battlefield" is ludicrous.

After they droned him, no proof was ever offered to the American people. A secret panel of assassins decides who gets to die and we're supposed to be OK with that.


By the way, this supposed terrorist mastermind was working for the Pentagon. Gee, nothing to see here.

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined at the Pentagon Just Months After 9/11 | Fox News

 

[RockofStrength]

The Bundy ranch is a Law Enforcement issue, not a GWOT issue.

Indeed?

Harry Reid blasts Bundy ranch supporters as 'domestic terrorists' - Washington Times

I think the local Senator disagrees. And all it takes is a few others to agree and boom, rights gone.

 

[Destro]

Prove it. Don't just repeat what Obama said. Where's the evidence? Why should I believe that?



There has never been an accusation that Anwar Al Awlaki pulled a trigger in anger. The official story we are supposed to believe is that he wrote emails to radical people. Confusing that with "combat" on a "battlefield" is ludicrous.

After they droned him, no proof was ever offered to the American people. A secret panel of assassins decides who gets to die and we're supposed to be OK with that.


By the way, this supposed terrorist mastermind was working for the Pentagon. Gee, nothing to see here.

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined at the Pentagon Just Months After 9/11 | Fox News

I don't care who the president is, as long as he's dropping bombs on bad guys overseas it's cool with me. They don't need to be trigger puller, he could be the admin for the AQGO message board (Al-Qaeda Gun Owners)....bombs away! Its none of my business who they launch drone strikes on as long as they aren't on US soil. The little information they release to the public about them the better.





the blood of the victims of the next 9/11 will be on your hands....sleep peacefully

 

[Destro]

Some estimate that 40-60 new operatives are generated for each terrorist killed by a drone.

Each drone strike creates at least 40 new militants - ex-State Dept. official ? RT USA

looks like we're not building drones fast enough

 

[Destro]

Indeed?

Harry Reid blasts Bundy ranch supporters as 'domestic terrorists' - Washington Times

I think the local Senator disagrees. And all it takes is a few others to agree and boom, rights gone.

I don't understand, are you saying YOU think Bundy is a terrorist? Are you saying that because Harry Reid said it it must be true?

 

[Manatee]

Is that supposed to be a scary picture? Sorry, but it isn't. How about this murder victim? Never got a trial and is was only guilty of being related to the man in your picture. Guess you're OK with killing kids, too.

Yep. This one is disturbing. From all available media investigations that I'm aware of, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, the teenage son, wasn't a terrorist and has never been engaged in such activities. The government should prove that he was.

The father? No problem from me. He deserved to get his butt blown away.

 

[armedindy]

wasnt james yeager almost labeled a terrorist?...i bet some of you wouldnt care if he got droned

 

[Destro]

Yep. This one is disturbing. From all available media investigations that I'm aware of, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, the teenage son, wasn't a terrorist and has never been engaged in such activities. The government should prove that he was.

The father? No problem from me. He deserved to get his butt blown away.

eh...collateral damage