Director Comey FIRED!!!

[churchmouse]

Those same people were ready to Saint him after he sent the letter about the additional emails.... something viewed as improper. If Obama had fired him then, I have a pretty solid idea of how that would be spun.

I was picturing his head on a pike after the Clinton debacle. Just more of the same.

They could walk them all out and start over as far as I am concerned.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

Heads now exploding over this tweet.

 

[Expat]

Heads now exploding over this tweet.

For some reason this morning, I was wondering if Trump would have taped stuff like this...

 

[Dddrees]

Impossible for surrogates to have perfect accuracy so maybe I should cancel all future press briefings. In other words please don't hold me or my representatives responsible for anything we say.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So Comey was fired by Trump for his handling of the Clinton investigation? Ha, ok. Well if one believes that, then of course the INGO faithful, who see no issue concerning how this looks, would have been perfectly ok if Obama had of fired him prior to the election, right?

Kut (would like some intellectual honesty)

Here's some intellectual honesty...

Comey should have been fired July 6th, by President Obama, for his unprecedented press conference. Obama didn't because the breach of protocol (and abuse of power, he was not the prosecutor and assumed that role) provided political cover for AG Lynch and candidate Clinton.

Comey should have been fired again after his late October Weiner-surprise. Democrats called for a full investigation, unanimously expressed loss of confidence in Comey and called for his head. Most Republicans rejoiced at Clinton suddenly having a Weiner-problem and spun it necessary after the debacle in July... that somehow two wrongs made a right.

And, why didn't Obama fire Comey? IMO, it's because Comey was biting on the Russian collusion angle and the oppo-research paper which would be a landmine for the Trump administration. Again, political calculation.

What is true is that EVERYONE was calling for Comey's head at some point between July and November (and after) of last year. And, that EVERYONE believed his handling of the affair was incompetent and tarnished the FBI... well, everyone except Jim Comey who last week defended every step as the right thing to do and that he would do it all again.

THAT, IMO, without a doubt, is more than enough reason that he DESERVED to be fired... are you suggesting that he shouldn't have been fired because he didn't deserve it?

tl;dr: Comey absolutely deserved to be fired. Those now opposed to his firing need to summon the intellectual honesty to argue he didn't deserve it.

 

[churchmouse]

Heads now exploding over this tweet.

Yes the talking spin masters are doing their thing right now.
Predictable and just more of the same from all involved.

 

[chipbennett]

So Comey was fired by Trump for his handling of the Clinton investigation? Ha, ok. Well if one believes that, then of course the INGO faithful, who see no issue concerning how this looks, would have been perfectly ok if Obama had of fired him prior to the election, right?

Kut (would like some intellectual honesty)

The director of the FBI serves at the pleasure of the President. FULLSTOP.

Loretta Lynch colluding with the Clintons in a private tarmac meeting? Problem.

The President (Obama or Trump) firing someone who works at the pleasure of the President? Not a problem.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

 

[Kutnupe14]

The director of the FBI serves at the pleasure of the President. FULLSTOP.

Loretta Lynch colluding with the Clintons in a private tarmac meeting? Problem.

The President (Obama or Trump) firing someone who works at the pleasure of the President? Not a problem.

Collusion? Where is that mentioned as being factual? Personally, I did think it was wrong and that Lynch should have been removed. However that was solely based on how he situation looked, not the actual conversation, which none of us know any details. So let's use your logic. If the president has dinner with the FBI director, and the dinner is supposedly about the FBI director keeping his job, is it a problem if the president asks, directly, if he is under investigation? Further, if then president does eventually fire said FBI director, and afterwords implies that the Russia investigation was on his mind when he decided to fire him.... is it also not a problem when, after the firing, the president says that there better not be any types of conversations between them? I baffled how that tweet can be viewed as anything but a "keep your mouth shut, because I have some evidence of your involvement in something inappropriate" threat.

 

[indiucky]

So Comey was fired by Trump for his handling of the Clinton investigation? Ha, ok. Well if one believes that, then of course the INGO faithful, who see no issue concerning how this looks, would have been perfectly ok if Obama had of fired him prior to the election, right?

Kut (would like some intellectual honesty)

Yes I would have been fine if Obama fired him...And let me take a moment to say...

[video=youtube;Mmm3KTa601s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmm3KTa601s[/video]

 

[Dddrees]

Collusion? Where is that mentioned as being factual? Personally, I did think it was wrong and that Lynch should have been removed. However that was solely based on how he situation looked, not the actual conversation, which none of us know any details. So let's use your logic. If the president has dinner with the FBI director, and the dinner is supposedly about the FBI director keeping his job, is it a problem if the president asks, directly, if he is under investigation? Further, if then president does eventually fire said FBI director, and afterwords implies that the Russia investigation was on his mind when he decided to fire him.... is it also not a problem when, after the firing, the president says that there better not be any types of conversations between them? I baffled how that tweet can be viewed as anything but a "keep your mouth shut, because I have some evidence of your involvement in something inappropriate" threat.

Unfortunately it seems Pre-Trump inappropriate behavior no longer applies in the Post-Trump world. That is at least for some. One can only hope the new poles are actually accurate and those who refer to him as an idiot and incompetent continue to grow and those few who call him a leader continue to shrink until they disappear.

 

[chipbennett]

Collusion? Where is that mentioned as being factual? Personally, I did think it was wrong and that Lynch should have been removed. However that was solely based on how he situation looked, not the actual conversation, which none of us know any details.

Obviously, they were discussing summer vacation plans. Or perhaps they broke into a spontaneous game of Parcheesi.

So let's use your logic. If the president has dinner with the FBI director, and the dinner is supposedly about the FBI director keeping his job, is it a problem if the president asks, directly, if he is under investigation? Further, if then president does eventually fire said FBI director, and afterwords implies that the Russia investigation was on his mind when he decided to fire him.... is it also not a problem when, after the firing, the president says that there better not be any types of conversations between them? I baffled how that tweet can be viewed as anything but a "keep your mouth shut, because I have some evidence of your involvement in something inappropriate" threat.

I suppose that FBI investigations only happen under the direct involvement of the Director. Naturally, firing the Director would cause all pending investigations to be halted.

And, if the president has the Russia investigation on his mind, the only logical conclusion is that it is because of mens rea, and not because he has been speciously accused of involvement, and speciously linked to an FBI investigation that is based on nothing more than a Democrat party oppo research paper, and that has thus far shown absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing.

And, knowing that Comey is likely the source of many, many previous leaks (acting in his role as a stooge of the Obama administration - again, serving at the pleasure of the president), perhaps Trump found it in Comey's best interests that Comey reconsider additional, future leaks (especially leaks of the untrue variety).

I don't see the latter as any sort of threat. I read it as, "Don't try to spread the lie that I was under FBI investigation, because I have you on record, saying exactly the opposite."

Oh: and this entire "OMG Teh Russians!!!1!" narrative is farcical, to begin with. Obama himself has meddled worse, in other countries' elections.

 

[Expat]

Unfortunately it seems Pre-Trump inappropriate behavior no longer applies in the Post-Trump world. That is at least for some. One can only hope the new poles are actually accurate and those who refer to him as an idiot and incompetent continue to grow and those few who call him a leader continue to shrink until they disappear.

I wouldn't hold my breath. It is totally a team sport now after the Bush/Obama years. You attack the other side and support your own.

 

[Dddrees]

I wouldn't hold my breath. It is totally a team sport now after the Bush/Obama years. You attack the other side and support your own.

Well said, that's the problem exactly. It's no longer right or wrong, appropriate or inappropriate. It's only a matter of whether it's my party or your party. What a sorry state of affairs.

 

[indiucky]

Unfortunately it seems Pre-Trump inappropriate behavior no longer applies in the Post-Trump world. That is at least for some. One can only hope the new poles are actually accurate and those who refer to him as an idiot and incompetent continue to grow and those few who call him a leader continue to shrink until they disappear.

"idiot"? "Incompetent"? Hardly....Obama was neither of those either....And also he is a "leader"...He is the duly elected president of these United States...The same as Obama, Clinton (the rapist, cigar violating one, not Hillary who is not president or ever will be), Carter, Reagan and both Bush's...Trump IS a leader by the very definition of the word...

Also "poles" should be capitalized if used to describe people of Poland....If you were referring to stripper poles then no capitalization is needed. If you were actually referring to "polls" showing that folks think OUR president is incompetent, then I am curious if these are the same "polls" that showed us Hillary was going to win by a landslide????

Unfortunately it seems the Clinton's inappropriate behavior no longer applies in the post Trump world....Folks just dust aside the Clinton scandals because the media tell us we should...

It's because Trump is orange....We get our first orange president and people start freaking out and accusing him of all sorts of things....

 

[spencer rifle]

Well said, that's the problem exactly. It's no longer right or wrong, appropriate or inappropriate. It's only a matter of whether it's my party or your party. What a sorry state of affairs.

Hardly. Any student of history knows that our current politics are positively lightweight compared to the mud that used to be slung around in the campaigns of 150 and 200 years ago.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...-partisanship-and-dysfunction?int=opinion-rec

 

[Dddrees]

Hardly. Any student of history knows that our current politics are positively lightweight compared to the mud that used to be slung around in the campaigns of 150 and 200 years ago.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...-partisanship-and-dysfunction?int=opinion-rec

So we all should be relieved or excited that we have done as bad or worse before?

 

[Dddrees]

"idiot"? "Incompetent"? Hardly....Obama was neither of those either....And also he is a "leader"...He is the duly elected president of these United States...The same as Obama, Clinton (the rapist, cigar violating one, not Hillary who is not president or ever will be), Carter, Reagan and both Bush's...Trump IS a leader by the very definition of the word...

Also "poles" should be capitalized if used to describe people of Poland....If you were referring to stripper poles then no capitalization is needed. If you were actually referring to "polls" showing that folks think OUR president is incompetent, then I am curious if these are the same "polls" that showed us Hillary was going to win by a landslide????

Unfortunately it seems the Clinton's inappropriate behavior no longer applies in the post Trump world....Folks just dust aside the Clinton scandals because the media tell us we should...

It's because Trump is orange....We get our first orange president and people start freaking out and accusing him of all sorts of things....

As I said if the polls can be believed. I for one refer to him as a snake oil salesman or Pt Barnum on steroids.

 

[indiucky]

As I said if the polls can be believed. I for one refer to him as a snake oil salesman or Pt Barnum on steroids.

Good...A successful businessman in the great American tradition...I am glad we can agree then...

 

[Dddrees]

Good...A successful businessman in the great American tradition...I am glad we can agree then...

Oh yeah, Trump University and his Casinos in New Jersey are but a few great examples of this very thing. He certainly has made money I will give him that.