Did world war 3 just start?

[BogWalker]

Wow. Vice has a new piece up that just flat out lays it out. These guys are on the ground there and seeing everything. They're laying the blame right where it really belongs.

https://news.vice.com/article/its-time-to-assign-blame-for-everything-happening-in-ukraine

So it's not Ukrainian Nazis?

Fantastic information. Thanks for the link.

 

[KG1]

I heard Ukraine is firing missiles from Russia into Ukraine. Just like they shot down their own aircraft.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Putin?s Number One Gunman in Ukraine Warns Him of Possible Defeat - The Daily Beast

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/07/25/ignoring-u-s-russia-steps-up-ukraine-offensive/

 

[mrjarrell]

Looks like the Russians are ratcheting up things along the border.

US says Russian troops massing near Ukraine - Europe - Al Jazeera English

 

[9mmfan]

I'm convinced Europe will allow the Ukraine to go down in flames. I don't believe that Europe ever considered Ukraine a separate entity from Russia.
Wonder what will happen when Putin starts pushing into Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria.

 

[T.Lex]

Red lines will be drawn.

 

[mrjarrell]

Looks like the US is leaking info showing the Russians firing into Ukraine.

U.S. releases images showing Russia firing into Ukraine

 

[copperhead-1911]

I hope not, but seems to look that way. It does not help that Obama really does not have standing in the world as a leader, just as a celebrity.

 

[ViperJock]

What are the chances the US is making that up? 50/50?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Not Joking: Russia Violates Missile Treaty, Obama Sends Stern Letter | SOOPERMEXICAN

 

[88GT]

Not Joking: Russia Violates Missile Treaty, Obama Sends Stern Letter | SOOPERMEXICAN

Did I read that correctly? The offense happened in 2011?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

APBREAKING: US says Russian testing violated 1987 missile treaty, calls breach 'very serious matter.'

 

[mrjarrell]

Not a lot that can be done other than to deploy our own forces in the air and at sea in the region, unless someone wants us to violate the treaty.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/29/w...ed-cruise-missile-in-violation-of-treaty.html

 

[88GT]

I never liked that treaty anyway.

 

[mrjarrell]

I never liked that treaty anyway.

Europe and our troops in Europe sure did. Made things a lot safer for them. It's concerning that Russia blew it off like that. They probably are thinking there won't be repercussions, but this one may just jolt the Europeans to act. We'll have to wait and see. No doubt someone will be by momentarily to tell us we should be bombing Russia for this.

 

[88GT]

Sarcasm. We pick and choose which treaty obligations we will honor based on nothing more than whether the guy in charge likes it.

 

[printcraft]

Russia should be bombed for doing that.





























Too soon?

 

[BogWalker]

Are there any pro-Ukrainian government militias anymore? So far I've heard of the Ukrainian government forces and the Pro-Russians and the Russians working with them. I know such groups were active in the initial regime change, but I haven't heard much of them since.

 

[T.Lex]

I read an account in the couple days after the MH17 shoot down that there was a pro-Ukraine militia unit attack, which provoked the pro-Russian militia.

Also, the footage of the SA-11 being taken back to Russia was primarily provided from pro-Ukrainian "spies" in Russian-controlled Ukraine.

 

[ViperJock]

I never liked that treaty anyway.

ROFL. And doggone it if I still can't rep you yet.

according to the "news" Ukraine has been making some progress retaking the crash site region?