Democrats and gun control

[jamil]

[video]https://youtu.be/Qkuu0Lwb5EM[/video]

I ain't fallin' fer that'n aggin.

 

[Alpo]

It is my hope that the expressions of vitriol on this thread keep some of you from kicking your dogs, beating your children and watching too much porn.

 

[printcraft]

It is my hope that the expressions of vitriol on this thread keep some of you from kicking your dogs, beating your children and watching too much porn.

I never kick my dogs!

 

[Alpo]

Lmaoscomn!

 

[Birds Away]

It is my hope that the expressions of vitriol on this thread keep some of you from kicking your dogs, beating your children and watching too much porn.

Um, how much is too much?

 

[MisterChester]

If I had to choose between Mittens or Obama I'd still end up choosing Obama. And Cpt. Nervous giving me negative rep for not sharing your opinion? Lmao. Honestly I really hope that an Independent candidate gets enough fame to be winnable, cause I would hate to put my rights in the hands of either major party.

If you're not 100% pure in these forums, you're going to get some rough words. Some people just can't take different opinions.

 

[Hellhound1055]

In regards to Romney, I Wouldnt say I have too much vitriol for him (btw I love that word). He was honestly too conservative on certain matters, not to mention he had even supported certain acts of gun control. Looking back at his platform he was essentially a conservative Obama, they both had their healthcare branded under their names, they both werent friends of the nra either. So since they both were going to be problematic to the 2a I moved on to the next issue that I felt was important. Civil Rights/ equality, Obama was far more progressive in that regard and that kinda won me out. Also I call him Mittens because its, in my opinion, one of the best nick names to have been used on a candidate. I would try and do the multi-quote thing, but I'm still learning how to use the forum properly.

 

[Alpo]

I ain't fallin' fer that'n aggin.

FIFY

 

[Arthur Dent]

He's just expressing disbelief that anybody could still vote for obayme in 2012 given his previous 4 year track record.
For the record, when obama first came on scene in 08 "I" liked his hope and changey message for about a week until I dug into his real opinions and background.
It was a hard thing to do as he was getting (and still is) cover in the media.

I think we don't define vitriol the same and we apparently don't have the same regard for reading comprehension. That last part was vitriol by the way. I have no animosity or bitterness for most people who voted for Obama. I just think pop culture is ill equipped to to have much independent thought.

So dislike for Obama is okay, but Romney deserves everyone's love.

 

[spec4]

Not jumping into this other than to say I hope everyone who voted for Obama got what they were looking for.

 

[Hellhound1055]

So dislike for Obama is okay, but Romney deserves everyone's love.

My candidate is the only candidate thats right, everyone else is wrong!

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

In regards to Romney, I Wouldnt say I have too much vitriol for him (btw I love that word). He was honestly too conservative on certain matters, not to mention he had even supported certain acts of gun control. Looking back at his platform he was essentially a conservative Obama, they both had their healthcare branded under their names, they both werent friends of the nra either. So since they both were going to be problematic to the 2a I moved on to the next issue that I felt was important. Civil Rights/ equality, Obama was far more progressive in that regard and that kinda won me out. Also I call him Mittens because its, in my opinion, one of the best nick names to have been used on a candidate. I would try and do the multi-quote thing, but I'm still learning how to use the forum properly.

I disagree with a couple of things. Many of the things Romney did reflected the _will of the people_ in his STATE. In order to judge fairly, we have to consider that he was acting as the governor of one of the most extreme liberal BS states in the Nation. His actions reflect that. Again, as I said, I didn't like his views. Not surprising, given that Indiana is one of the more conservative states.

He went there because it reflected the will of ALL the people he governed.
Obama shoved it down the throat of the governed.

I'm not much on either one of them , but I will tell you which one I would choose, and without reservation.

 

[jamil]

So dislike for Obama is okay, but Romney deserves everyone's love.

Well. That's a pretty absurd false dichotomy to draw from my words. Romney wasn't an ideal alternative to Romney. Though Romney isn't pro 2A he is less anti-2A than Obama. And one of those two were going to be president. Johnson was NEVER going to be president. Those were just the pragmatic facts of the time. And given that choice, I voted for the less anti-2A candidate that actually had an opportunity to win.

I don't care if other people wanted to choose the ideological vote. I'm not going to criticize that. If people chose to vote 3rd party or not at all, it was because a diverse party couldn't rally behind a solid candidate. So they picked Mitt.

My candidate is the only candidate thats right, everyone else is wrong!

Well, you, being a single-issue 2A voter and all, did vote for the guy that used all the social pressure he could bring to bear on the nation to enact gun control after Sandy Hook. And after each tragedy since, he's lectured America in synchronous harmony with the mob-shaming, like-minded media. And most recently he stood before America and asked a question he thinks we should accept as viable policy, why not politicize a tragic shooting to shame people into accepting more gun control.

Romney wasn't ideal and he certainly isn't pro-2A. But given the same circumstances, a President Romney would probably have signed anti-gun legislation had it hit his desk. But I am certain that he would not have pursued gun control as passionately and viciously as Obama. And he certainly wouldn't have tried to mob-shame his opponents.

And like I said. I don't blame you. We all have a right to our own beliefs and opinions. But I do get to notice and comment on the consequences of your choices and the cognitive dissonance that must reside in the mind of a single issue, pro-2a, Obama supporter. BTW, Arthur Dent is just trying to make that sound like I'm being hypocritical. Because that's just what people do.

 

[Thor]

So, is Romney running now? I guess I should wait for a few more pages to generate and see what other news can come up.

I see the thread has been handily deflected from it's discussion of Democrats and Gun Control...I guess them not wanting to look in the mirror and all.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

So, is Romney running now? I guess I should wait for a few more pages to generate and see what other news can come up.

I see the thread has been handily deflected from it's discussion of Democrats and Gun Control...I guess them not wanting to look in the mirror and all.

Agreed.

As Jamil correctly pointed out... I'll take cognitive dissonance for $500 , Alex...

 

[Birds Away]

I'm looking forward to reading how these supposed single issue voters (2A) justify their vote for Hillary. This should be good.

 

[PaulF]

The Obama election mobilized the pro-2A forces, which helped to keep all other anti-2A forces at bay. The actual net effect of the Obama presidency has been more Americans exercising their 2A rights than we have seen a generation.

In fact: Obama=more freedom for gun owners.

Would the same have been true for Romney? Would gun owners have recognized the threat he actually presented to our freedoms the way we did with Obama? I wonder...

Would the USA PATRIOT ACT have gotten through under Obama? Why is it "real conservatives" are blind to attacks on their liberty when they come from a Republican?

 

[Alpo]

Hint: The democrats who own guns will continue to own guns after this thread (and O's term in office) are complete.

Why are democrats considered a single bloc of voters when it is obvious that the GOP is divided among at least as many factions?

 

[Birds Away]

The Obama election mobilized the pro-2A forces, which helped to keep all other anti-2A forces at bay. The actual net effect of the Obama presidency has been more more Americans exercising their 2A rights than we have seen a generation.

In fact: Obama=more freedom for gun owners.

Would the same have been true for Romney? Would gun owners have recognized the threat he actually presented to our freedoms the way we did with Obama? I wonder...

Would the USA PATRIOT ACT have gotten through under Obama? Why is it "real conservatives" are blind to attacks on their liberty when they come from a Republican?

The net result you speak of is accurate. I don't think anyone is blind to the fact that, while Democrats pose a direct threat to our liberties, Republicans, at best, pose an indirect threat to them. Republicans haven't done anything but pander to conservatives in a very long time.

 

[printcraft]

I'm looking forward to reading how these supposed single issue voters (2A) justify their vote for Hillary. This should be good.

How can anybody vote for hitlary?
Is there anybody that doesn't know how slimy she is after 30 years of back dealing she has been involved in???