Dallas Protest, Shots Fired

[two70]

As do I. Is it you're position that the BLM movement is a racist one?

What other conclusion can one draw when the very name of the organization implies one race in particular matters more than others and that implication is backed by verbal assaults when the phrase is altered to "ALL lives matter"?

Edited to answer the question more fully: I think the "movement" is a progressive one, targeted and marketed to attract racists in order to create strife for political and financial gain.

 

[Woobie]

See my post above....and yes, people associated with movement have already denounced it.

Yeah, I was tracking what you and Jamil were saying. And I'm on board with you. I was saying that in the sense that it will make a big difference for them on how quickly they get out in front of this. Glad to hear there has been positive response. Maybe they have, but something needs to be said about protesters dancing at the news of dead cops. Hopefully some folks in that crowd wake up this morning and realize "what just happened last night? It's time to grow up!"

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So, what we know:

3 in custody, not talking
4th dead
14 shot (12 officers, 2 civilians)

Some pictures floating around with a timeframe for a cop "purge", so... should we expect more to happen in the short-term?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Also: Obama renews gun control push after 'senseless' Dallas murders | Fox News

 

[Woobie]

So, what we know:

3 in custody, not talking
4th dead
14 shot (12 officers, 2 civilians)

Some pictures floating around with a timeframe for a cop "purge", so... should we expect more to happen in the short-term?

That Twitter exchange Printcraft posted leaves on wondering what else is on the way.

 

[Thegeek]

There is no normal side. It's a terrorist organization.

Using violence to provoke a desired action on the opposing side. I wouldn't say they all are, but they're closer to domestic terrorist than the NRA.

 

[jamil]

Also: Obama renews gun control push after 'senseless' Dallas murders | Fox News

I wish someone from his own party would just say, "Just shut the **** up. Not every event has to be politicized. You're not helping."

 

[Woobie]

Also: Obama renews gun control push after 'senseless' Dallas murders | Fox News

Screw him.

A real leader would say something like "there will be time for politics when all the facts are in. For now our thoughts and prayers are with the brave officers and their families. We offer our full support to DPD and the city of Dallas."

But no, he just starts crying again. What a joke. I'm disgusted.

 

[Wolfhound]

Prayers sent for the officers and their families.

The gun control drums are already beating.

Is it time to start panic buying now?

 

[jamil]

Using violence to provoke a desired action on the opposing side. I wouldn't say they all are, but they're closer to domestic terrorist than the NRA.

I think this is true. It may not be the goal of everyone in BLM, but they've done more to escalate violence than the NRA. The left has just done everything it can to turn the NRA into the face of violence.

 

[Kutnupe14]

What other conclusion can one draw when the very name of the organization implies one race in particular matters more than others and that implication is backed by verbal assaults when the phrase is altered to "ALL lives matter"?

There's no "only" listed in that movement. If one was to say Spotted Owls lives, Siberian Tiger lives, or Sea Turtle "lives mattered," is that a dismissal of the lives of all other owls, tigers, and turtles? Or is it an attempt to bring attention to the environmental status of group of animals I first listed?
Of course this will probably only make sense to me, but whatever.

 

[churchmouse]

I think this is true. It may not be the goal of everyone in BLM, but they've done more to escalate violence than the NRA. The left has just done everything it can to turn the NRA into the face of violence.

Follow the agenda.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Using violence to provoke a desired action on the opposing side. I wouldn't say they all are, but they're closer to domestic terrorist than the NRA.

That's not saying much. I dislike the NRA, but I don't see how domestic terrorism, at least in the past 50+ years (if ever) is applied to them.

 

[mcjon77]

I've seen something to that affect as well and it has me scratching my head. How much preparation is needed to throw on a vest, grab a rifle, and roll? Even if you have to load up a few mags, it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes?

I think the point the media is implying is that the ONLY reason to ALREADY own tactical gear, body armor, a semi-auto rifle, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition is because you are planning something bad. The idea that someone would already have this type of equipment WITHOUT any specific plans to attack someone or something is completely foreign to them.

It is along the same lines as the media idea that anyone with more than one gun and 10 rounds of ammunition has an "arsenal".

 

[nakinate]

Yeah, that part is easy. The training shows preparation.

Not necessarily, if the suspects already had a military background or grew up using guns (maybe hunting) then their training would irrelevant to the planning. If they had the training before they got the idea to do the shooting, then it wasn't part of the planning.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Follow the agenda.

This is true. Guys like Jesse Jackson called the Baton Rouge shooting a "legal lynching." If my tv wasn't so expensive, I'd have kicked it over. I still think to shooting looked bad, personally, but I don't believe, for a second, these guys wanted to kill Sterling simply for being black.

 

[Thegeek]

That's not saying much. I dislike the NRA, but I don't see how domestic terrorism, at least in the past 50+ years (if ever) is applied to them.

Them being the Dallas shooters, or the NRA? The NRA has been labeled domestic terrorists by the left for the last decade or so. But I don't recall any NRA protests ending with dead cops.

 

[Expat]

The Chief just said they used a bomb to kill the last suspect.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not necessarily, if the suspects already had a military background or grew up using guns (maybe hunting) then their training would irrelevant to the planning. If they had the training before they got the idea to do the shooting, then it wasn't part of the planning.

These guys picked differing elevated shooting locations, that allowed both a solid place to put rounds on target, were able to get to their locations without creating alarm, and held officers at bay/searching for them, for hours. Luck or skill, a fair bit of planning had to be involved.

 

[Woobie]

Not necessarily, if the suspects already had a military background or grew up using guns (maybe hunting) then their training would irrelevant to the planning. If they had the training before they got the idea to do the shooting, then it wasn't part of the planning.

The dude that ran around the pillar and shot the cop was good. It looks like they may have all been good. You have to search out other good people, either by radicalizing the ones you know, or finding other trained radicals. I can see what you're saying if this was a lone gunman. But this was a team, and 4 trained people don't make a team.