Coronovirus IV

[tbhausen]

I resent that!!

I see you changed your avatar back

 

[tbhausen]

This video is about a lot more than Delta Airlines retiring all their triple-sevens. If anyone has any doubt about how much damage this has done to the US airline industry, this guy states it in plain language. It’s almost inconceivable the amount of wealth that has been destroyed in response to this pandemic:

[video=youtube_share;hXiX3DKxtF4]https://youtu.be/hXiX3DKxtF4[/video]

 

[nipprdog]

[video=youtube;f4W2xmqjvx4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=427&v=f4W2xmqjvx4&feature=emb_ title[/video]

 

[ghuns]

And no, this is NOT from the Babylon Bee...

CO man dies from astounding 0.55 blood alcohol level, coronavirus listed as cause of death

 

[femurphy77]

And no, this is NOT from the Babylon Bee...

CO man dies from astounding 0.55 blood alcohol level, coronavirus listed as cause of death

WuFlu deaths are more profitable than alcohol poisoning deaths.

 

[hoosierdoc]

not to claim any "smartness" but I think the clarification here lies with "specificity"

If an antibody test is 99% specific, it's pretty dang close to perfect and will not pick up antibodies from other disease.

If a test is 95% specific it's not really great for the individual but is useful in a population that is heavily exposed. It means 5 out of 100 will be false positive. So if you have a disease where 50% of the population is exposed then a test with 95% specificity will potentially overreport by 5% and not a big deal. However, if the society only has 3% infected and it overreports by 5%, then it's a big error.

yep. our existing viral panels already tested for several strains of coronavirus active infection but they did not work for this one. it's different enough you can be quite specific in testing. or must be, depending on the term you want

 

[hoosierdoc]

This video is about a lot more than Delta Airlines retiring all their triple-sevens. If anyone has any doubt about how much damage this has done to the US airline industry, this guy states it in plain language. It’s almost inconceivable the amount of wealth that has been destroyed in response to this pandemic

nope. we have no idea. because nothing "hurts" yet. the problem with government stimulus is it pacified the masses into thinking everything is OK while 20,000,000 more were then laid off.

if there was no stimulus people would have put their foot down

 

[jamil]

WuFlu deaths are more profitable than alcohol poisoning deaths.

That's what it looks like to me. But some people might think that the only explanation possible is much more nefarious, that "they" want the numbers inflated to perpetuate a continued lockdown to usher in the new world order.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk to Healthy People

Dr. Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon, has written an editorial addressing healthy people wearing masks to protect themselves from COVID-19 and his advice is: don’t.

First, Blaylock says, there is no scientific evidence that it is effective against COVID-19 transmission. Pro-science people should care about this.

Take it for what it is worth, and value it for what you paid for the advice.

It is also instructive to know that until recently, the CDC did not recommend wearing a face mask or covering of any kind, unless a person was known to be infected, that is, until recently.

Among the mask crusaders out there, that will kill it. See, they’ve been told any one of us *could be* infected, at any time. So, we’re told to assume we are infected all of the time. Having bought this, hook, line, and sinker, to them if you are not wearing a mask, you are a selfish cad and are to be shamed out of society.

 

[nonobaddog]

And no, this is NOT from the Babylon Bee...

CO man dies from astounding 0.55 blood alcohol level, coronavirus listed as cause of death

The article plainly states that the county coroner ruled ethanol toxicity as the official cause of death. It is only the politically motivated dept of health and environment that is ignoring the facts and saying it was the chinese virus.

 

[qwerty]

I have updated some of the mapping for cases and deaths. Clicking on a county name will provide some population data and statistics. I have a technical counterpart in Little Rock so we have been comparing some data as Arkansas did not have a mandated stay-at-home order. There were some restrictions on dine-in restaurants, indoor concerts and shows but the decision to open/close distance, etc were up to the individuals. Little Rock did close some playgrounds and threatened people to stay apart, but folks were free to move about the state without threat of the governement.

	Marion County Indiana	Pulaski County Arkansas	Dif%
Population	964,582	391,911	59%
Density	2,357/sq mi	470/sq mi	80%
Cases	7,793	661	92%
Case/Mil	8,079	1,687	79%
Deaths	451	23	95%
Deaths/Mil	468	59	87%

 

[Leadeye]

One good thing to take away from all this covid stuff is that America has been given a taste of socialism while still being able to retreat from that cliff. In the past when we got a taste of it, the government had sugar coated it because all it was just "free" stuff. Now we see the leadership bungling with no accountability, dictatorial edicts, bare shelves in the store, and big unemployment.

 

[JettaKnight]

I have updated some of the mapping for cases and deaths. Clicking on a county name will provide some population data and statistics. I have a technical counterpart in Little Rock so we have been comparing some data as Arkansas did not have a mandated stay-at-home order. There were some restrictions on dine-in restaurants, indoor concerts and shows but the decision to open/close distance, etc were up to the individuals. Little Rock did close some playgrounds and threatened people to stay apart, but folks were free to move about the state without threat of the governement.

	Marion County Indiana	Pulaski County Arkansas	Dif%
Population	964,582	391,911	59%
Density	2,357/sq mi	470/sq mi	80%
Cases	7,793	661	92%
Case/Mil	8,079	1,687	79%
Deaths	451	23	95%
Deaths/Mil	468	59	87%

It looks like Allen Co. is a better comparison, size wise. But even then, Allen Co.'s DPM is 160.82 - near 7x.

EDIT: But.... if you look at Lincoln Co., AK, the DPM is 614, higher that Marion Co.

 

[foszoe]

Since a lot of Asian countries are prone to wear masks, I would like to see a case study over time regarding infection rates in Asian cities vs American cities to help me decide which quacks are right.

Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk to Healthy People

Dr. Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon, has written an editorial addressing healthy people wearing masks to protect themselves from COVID-19 and his advice is: don’t.

First, Blaylock says, there is no scientific evidence that it is effective against COVID-19 transmission. Pro-science people should care about this.

Take it for what it is worth, and value it for what you paid for the advice.

 

[Ingomike]

You managed to argue against things that weren't in my post at all. Congratulations? I addressed two points:

• Tombs' hyperbolic statement that "Face masks don't prevent anything".
• One trivially simple way to decontaminate masks- rotation and time.

If you don't want to use masks, don't. I didn't address the value of cloth vs N95 masks which is all that article is about, though the rotation trick applies to either type of mask.

I have no idea why you bothered to quote my post since you didn't bother to respond to my points at all.

You said the following

Oh please, please, please tell your medical staff that they shouldn't use masks when you get an operation. I'd love to read about that one.

I responded to this point in relation to the ongoing fight about masks and gave research that indicates that mask wear is not a panacea and may itself be dangerous. Even the N95 masks can be dangerous of not worn properly and kept sterile.

 

[nonobaddog]

Since a lot of Asian countries are prone to wear masks, I would like to see a case study over time regarding infection rates in Asian cities vs American cities to help me decide which quacks are right.

Just compare Hong Kong to any other similar city in the world. They have about 7.5 Million densely packed residents.
They have had 1,053 cases of which 1,019 have recovered and only 4 deaths.
97% of the people there wear masks.

 

[JettaKnight]

I think we should stop carrying guns for protection. There's plenty of studies about their ineffectiveness and danger to the user. Plus, have you seen how many people are doing it wrong and aren't trained?

 

[qwerty]

It looks like Allen Co. is a better comparison, size wise. But even then, Allen Co.'s DPM is 160.82 - near 7x.

EDIT: But.... if you look at Lincoln Co., AK, the DPM is 614, higher that Marion Co.

Lincoln is skewed a bit because it has a pretty good sized prison, so those deaths are attributed to the county. Latest numbers show 900 inmates and seven deaths in that prison.

 

[Route 45]

One good thing to take away from all this covid stuff is that America has been given a taste of socialism while still being able to retreat from that cliff. In the past when we got a taste of it, the government had sugar coated it because all it was just "free" stuff. Now we see the leadership bungling with no accountability, dictatorial edicts, bare shelves in the store, and big unemployment.

Leadership always bungles, regardless of who is in charge.
Accountability? LOL
Dictatorial edicts? Not exclusive to any political ideology.
Bare shelves in stores? False. Only a few items are in short supply, and that's mostly because of hoarding, not "socialism." I have purchased both toilet paper and hand sanitizer within the last few days.
Big unemployment? Pretty sure the virus response played the lead role, not an economic system that has not been implemented.

No, most people are not going to look at our current predicament and blame "socialism." As a matter of fact, the most "socialist" part of this whole quagmire (stimulus check and enhanced unemployment) are some of the most popular things.

Not saying that socialism is a good thing, but just because you hate socialism doesn't mean that everything you hate is socialism.

 

[Tombs]

You managed to argue against things that weren't in my post at all. Congratulations? I addressed two points:

• Tombs' hyperbolic statement that "Face masks don't prevent anything".
• One trivially simple way to decontaminate masks- rotation and time.

If you don't want to use masks, don't. I didn't address the value of cloth vs N95 masks which is all that article is about, though the rotation trick applies to either type of mask.

I have no idea why you bothered to quote my post since you didn't bother to respond to my points at all.

You realize the reason this virus is causing such a panic is because it can live on surfaces for 9 to 14 days, right? How many friggin masks do you have to rotate that far for all the businesses that require you wear them?

One good thing to take away from all this covid stuff is that America has been given a taste of socialism while still being able to retreat from that cliff. In the past when we got a taste of it, the government had sugar coated it because all it was just "free" stuff. Now we see the leadership bungling with no accountability, dictatorial edicts, bare shelves in the store, and big unemployment.

I think you're in for a very very rude awakening.