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Quest Diagnostics offers testing. I think you can go in to a few places or you can order a kit.
Quest was one of those that had a poor test but now it says they are using the Abbott test which a good one with 100% specificity.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...ng-antibodies-now-available-state/3097177001/
For more information and questions about the test.
https://www.orthoclinicaldiagnostic...um=Press Release&utm_campaign=COVID 19 Quest
Quest was one of those that had a poor test but now it says they are using the Abbott test which a good one with 100% specificity.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...ng-antibodies-now-available-state/3097177001/
For more information and questions about the test.
https://www.orthoclinicaldiagnostic...um=Press Release&utm_campaign=COVID 19 Quest
I may be late to the party, but WTF:
If the disease is truly that horrible, then why inflate the numbers?
Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”
(sorry if this has been posted already)
[video=youtube_share;Tw9Ci2PZKZg]https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg[/video]
If the disease is truly that horrible, then why inflate the numbers?
Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”
(sorry if this has been posted already)
[video=youtube_share;Tw9Ci2PZKZg]https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg[/video]
I believe that is a lie.
The CDC guidelines have already been posted in this thread (or a previous iteration thereof) for any of us to read.
The CDC guidelines have already been posted in this thread (or a previous iteration thereof) for any of us to read.
Sign yourself up: https://www.labcorp.com/antibody-testing
Testing is free of charge. There is a $10 up-front fee if you use their online healthcare provider to answer screening questions. No fee if your doctor orders the test.
Antibody testing must be covered free of charge, per the CARES Act.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-antibody-testing-covered-free-health-insurance-medicaid/
Anyone can publish any guidelines that "should" be followed. Is there a mechanism in place mandating that states follow these CDC guidelines? Even if there is, that does not guarantee compliance.
You saw the actual video. Not a summary of what was said, but what was straight from the horse's mouth.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the guidelines, just that Illinois isn't known for doing anything that makes sense.
If you don’t mind me asking, when last fall was this? We had a mysterious illness run through our house in late December through early January. I’m not saying it was Rona. But it’s possible it could have been. I strongly suspect that this was in the US much earlier than January.
I've now heard that story about a half dozen times.
The antibodies have yet to be found in the suspected coronavirus patient.
Personally, I'd say there's no chance that you had it, but I'm very interested in whether you have the antibodies.
It was late November because I sat out Turkey day due to being sick. It was as sick as I have ever been with the flu but being me I did not suspect anything past the usual crap the terrorists would bring home from the local Petri dish. I carried over into December as I remember. Took a while to get my boiler back up to full steam.
That is inconsistent with the published CDC guidelines and, frankly, inconsistent with how causes of death are reported in most places, from what I can tell.
Part of the purposes is to track comorbidities. If someone was in hospice dying from metastaticized lung cancer, but also tested positive for COVID, the reporting doctor is supposed to put metastaticized lung cancer as the cause of death and the COVID positive status, so as to track the spread. If, in the doctor's medical opinion, COVID contributed to an earlier death, then that gets listed as the cause.
It remains up to the doctor.
Yeah that strikes me about the same. Trust I would have taken a pass on that
if I had a choice but hey.....every one seems to be so much more enlightened than my Dr. I'm out.
I know that we have some awesome doctors here, wondering if anyone has seen this (I apologize for not reading the entire 22 pages before posting this) and what their take is on it. Please watch to the end. https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb317df322e03001635430a
Last Fall? No chance.
It would be the earliest recorded patient. Here. In Indiana. It would completely upend our understanding of coronaviruses. And unless he had some interaction with bats and Wuhan China, there would be no path for it to skip out of Indiana to Wuhan where it infected a (literally) unknowable total of people, with a compelling mortality rate (whatever the number is). In a patient with admitted vulnerabilities to it.
I do not "know." Yet, I'm still saying no chance. And I'm very interested in the results, as I was with my other friends who went through the process who actually had a reasonable chance of having it.
Yeah that strikes me about the same. Trust I would have taken a pass on that
I'm out.
Fair 'nuff.
But if your doctor was serious about "even money," then I'm wondering what inside knowledge he has about this epidemic.
I'm willing to amend the "no chance." There's no chance the infection was in late November.
There's still the chance that asymptomatic exposure occurred since then, especially if there were any visits to large gatherings of people in close proximity, or nursing homes.
But, given the admitted vulnerabilities, I'd suspect there would've been more specific signs of COVID.
Again, I mentioned this in Coronavirus III - my circle of friends includes people who were in hotspots in the early stages of actual diagnosis here in the US, got really sick, and don't have the antibodies. Those people actually had "even money" chances of having it and didn't. Someone with no obvious exposure to it, before it was a diagnosis? I'm skeptical.
There's still the chance that asymptomatic exposure occurred since then, especially if there were any visits to large gatherings of people in close proximity, or nursing homes.
But, given the admitted vulnerabilities, I'd suspect there would've been more specific signs of COVID.
Again, I mentioned this in Coronavirus III - my circle of friends includes people who were in hotspots in the early stages of actual diagnosis here in the US, got really sick, and don't have the antibodies. Those people actually had "even money" chances of having it and didn't. Someone with no obvious exposure to it, before it was a diagnosis? I'm skeptical.
My husband also had to skip Turkey Day because of this. He had a bad cough for a long time after.
I lean the opposite direction, and think how could it possibly have NOT been here then?
That's not what I said.
It may have been "here" in the US. The earliest reported confirmed death is now in January in California, I believe, but she died of something that takes weeks to kill the patient. She had traceable exposure to people from China.
That's very different from some random (but important to INGO) Hoosier.
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