-
Be sure to read this post! Beware of scammers. https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/classifieds-new-online-payment-guidelines-rules-paypal-venmo-zelle-etc.511734/
Coronovirus IV
- Thread starter churchmouse
- Start date
The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana
Member Benefits:
Fewer Ads! Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses Discover free outdoor shooting areas View up to date on firearm-related events Share photos & video with other members ...and so much more!
Member Benefits:
- Status
Makes ya realize that science is not the know all when it comes to nature (among other things). Data does not determine reality but rather "may" explain it. We have been submerged in a bath of data that is constantly changing by both man made and natural input.
Time to open up society and stop pretending science knows what is best.
Undoubtedly, most would have died within months to maybe a couple of years from something else.
The average stay in a nursing home is 835 days. Somewhere around 10-12% of people over 75 who get 'Rona die from it.....meaning 88-90% do not. I would imagine that the nursing home population, is, on average, much sicker than their non-nursing home age cohorts.
that's very high for an infectious disease that is also highly contagious AND still not endemic
That's preliminary though, as is the estimate that only 2.8% of the population has been infected so far.
I had a mild flu-like illness after a trip to Orlando in January and an even more mild cough/headache after a trip to Vegas in February. I doubt we had Covid, or at least it didn't fit the typical description.
Last edited:
i had a terrible sinus infection the week of thanksgiving in 19....thought i was going to die.......9 weeks ago got another one but worst than the first one.......i think i had some sort of it too.....but who knows.......hope they get to the bottom of you stuff
some of this is BS in my book..
That could be awesome churchmouse! I hope your antibody tests come back positive! I am jealous.
I used to brag about not being sick for at least the last ten years or so and now it turns out that is a bad thing. My immune system is probably out of practice.
I know a few people who have had symptoms (still on quarantine) and been tested. They tested negative but was told they were "clinical positive". One way or another they are trying to get that number up. What I would like to see done s test for both the seasonal flu and china flu. The swab is the same but the media may be different. We may get more factual numbers that would benefit the study.
So, you can have flu symptoms and they can either call it the china flu or seasonal flu with a test. You can be tested negative but have flu symptoms but the symptoms make it "clinical positive" for the china flu. You can go into the hospital with flu symptoms and die, they classify that as china flu death; without any testing.
My point is the data is compromised in so many ways. Let's add ventilators to the equation. It is being suggested that vents may have caused unnecessary deaths with those "suspected" of the china flu. Is the china flu death rate decreasing because we no longer push the vent; realizing it created a detrimental situation?
IMHO, we have no baseline, very little solid foundation if any at all. The scientists cannot agree because of the politicization of the china virus. Front line workers and doctors reporting a different observation than the data gatherers are pulling together.
Nonsense. People died, yes; but how many really had to die? How many did not die? How many resurrected hospitals really were used? How many patients in McCormick Place?
What are the 3 top hotspots in the USA and who is in power in those states? The list of questions is long.
So, you can have flu symptoms and they can either call it the china flu or seasonal flu with a test. You can be tested negative but have flu symptoms but the symptoms make it "clinical positive" for the china flu. You can go into the hospital with flu symptoms and die, they classify that as china flu death; without any testing.
My point is the data is compromised in so many ways. Let's add ventilators to the equation. It is being suggested that vents may have caused unnecessary deaths with those "suspected" of the china flu. Is the china flu death rate decreasing because we no longer push the vent; realizing it created a detrimental situation?
IMHO, we have no baseline, very little solid foundation if any at all. The scientists cannot agree because of the politicization of the china virus. Front line workers and doctors reporting a different observation than the data gatherers are pulling together.
Nonsense. People died, yes; but how many really had to die? How many did not die? How many resurrected hospitals really were used? How many patients in McCormick Place?
What are the 3 top hotspots in the USA and who is in power in those states? The list of questions is long.
Or your immune system is pretty good!
Math isn't all that hard to do. Mortality rate for the virus is hilariously low unless death is already knocking on your door.
We're just witnessing the next step of theater. First it was being molested by high school dropouts if you wanted to fly on a plane. Now it's wearing a government leash (mask) everywhere to demonstrate submission to your god, the state.
Speaking of walmarts - Did you know that even with all the walmarts all over there is not a single one in all of new york city?
REAL Science© is a good thing and has helped mankind tremendously for a long time. However now politics has corrupted many scientists and science itself so there is no more trust. Politics ****s up everything it touches.
I would definitely find out what test they are using first. There are many tests out there that are not worth doing and only a few that are worth doing - ie. Roche, Abbott, Ortho.
Trevor Bedford said:We now have enough #SARSCoV2 genomic data from different states to make some broad conclusions about how the #COVID19 epidemic has unfolded in the US.
We see a spectrum where some states had single (early) introductions that fueled the majority of the epidemic, while in others the epidemic appears to be driven by a larger number of separate introductions.
This analysis shows relationships from sequencing viral genomes. The main thing to pay attention to is how cases (dots colored by state) cluster. Patches of cases from the same state indicate local transmission. All figures from @nextstrain: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/north-america?c=division&f_country=USA&r=division
These analyses depend on comparison of sequenced viruses and so equitable sampling over geography and time is necessary to make reliable conclusions. This sampling has improved recently, but there are still gaps in sequencing and caution in interpretation is warranted
If we look at New York, we see that most infections appear to derive from an introduction from Europe in mid-February (node on the tree labeled "NY"). This introduction rapidly grew to a substantial epidemic focused in NYC, but frequently introduced to other locations
While if we look at Washington we see an introduction of a lineage from China that drove much of the early outbreak, but then multiple introductions from the NY clade fueling further transmission chains in March
California is interesting in that like WA, much of the outbreak is fueled by an early introduction of a lineage from Asia and then later cases derived from repeated introductions from elsewhere in the US.
Contrast this with Wisconsin, in which the outbreak appears driven by a large number of separate introductions from elsewhere in the US and Europe. It lacks the early successful introduction seen in NY, WA and CA.
Louisiana has a remarkably focused outbreak in which most sequenced cases appear to derive from a couple closely related introduction events. This outbreak nests within the genetic diversity seen in NY suggesting a possible transmission route
Part of the Texas outbreak groups closely with this clade from LA, while other samples from Texas reveal a large number of separate introductions to the state.
Overall, we see substantial mixing of transmission chains across states. This mixing largely occurred during Feb and early March. I'd expect moving forward for there to be more geographically focused transmission chains given reduced travel in the US. I see continued genetic sequencing as potentially illuminating sources of infection and whether further cases within a state are largely the result of local transmission or of repeated introductions from outside the state.
https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1260281079732166656
That study says there were about 113,000 positive COVID-19 cases in Indiana at that time(1.7%) - not survived cases but live cases. The state was only aware of about one tenth of that number. That seems to indicate you can expect a continued spread of the disease.
Amen
Another court slaps down rule making by fiat. This time it's the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Wisconsin’s Supreme Court strikes down governor's ‘safer at home’ order
Wisconsin’s Supreme Court strikes down governor's ‘safer at home’ order
I ways did. As I’ve said, it’s not just going to disappear on its own if we continue to curl up in the fetal position.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
and NYC is not beating the virus as deblasio said. their lower case counts aee because it's burned through most non-immune people already.
do you "win against the fire" when it burned 85% of the island and finally starts dwindling as it hits the beaches?
Last edited:
- Status
