Coronovirus III

[DoggyDaddy]

I guess single parents and their children starve then. Oh well, we need less people.

Hire a babysitter. Support small business! (and it doesn't get much smaller than a teenage babysitter) Not sure if I should have used purple or not.

 

[smokingman]

Early in the pandemic there was a sharp spike in excess deaths over the normal expected. Some of these were reported as caused by the chinese virus. Many were not. It is strange there would be such a sharp increase in deaths right at the same time.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...covid-19-death-toll-undercounted/?arc404=true

Agreed.
Now I would like to know how they received the death data. Yes deaths are reported to states and the CDC,but getting that data is not easy. Most of us have to wait 2+ years for the "official" cdc death report.

 

[KMaC]

Serious question.
I read that the virus stays alive for 24 hrs on paper products.
If so, why are the surgical masks, made of paper, thrown away rather than just set aside for 24 hrs.
I'm not asking about medical uses as the other bacteria are still on the masks. But for general public use of half an hour in the grocery why can't they be reused?

 

[Vigilant]

• Hire a babysitter. Support small business! (and it doesn't get much smaller than a teenage babysitter) Not sure if I should have used purple or not.

  Its a bull**** order! But we’re used to being subjects now so it will be followed in lockstep. Some single parents can’t afford a babysitter.

 

[jedi]

Serious question.
I read that the virus stays alive for 24 hrs on paper products.
If so, why are the surgical masks, made of paper, thrown away rather than just set aside for 24 hrs.
I'm not asking about medical uses as the other bacteria are still on the masks. But for general public use of half an hour in the grocery why can't they be reused?

They could be provided a few other things.

1) Let's say you did not sneeze on it
2) Let's say it's still clean/good working order

Then yes it can be and if you have nothing else should.
But this is 'merica where the are now 1000% scared and will obey whatever .gov says. So they were told to stay indoors, to wear a mask and toss it, to wash their hands, to not hig/kiss/etc.. and MOST IMPORTANKY that chicken nuggets are still avaliable!

 

[nonobaddog]

Serious question.
I read that the virus stays alive for 24 hrs on paper products.
If so, why are the surgical masks, made of paper, thrown away rather than just set aside for 24 hrs.
I'm not asking about medical uses as the other bacteria are still on the masks. But for general public use of half an hour in the grocery why can't they be reused?

This has been brought up before and it is a very good point.
I don't have any masks but if I only had two 95% masks I would be set. After using one I would just let it sit for four days before using it a subsequent time and the same for the other one.

 

[Kdf101]

I don’t understand why people panic when they test a bunch of people and find out a bunch of them have it that DIDNT even know it? Seems we would be happy, that means that the death rate is much much lower.

 

[nonobaddog]

I don’t understand why people panic when they test a bunch of people and find out a bunch of them have it that DIDNT even know it? Seems we would be happy, that means that the death rate is much much lower.

You are right, that is basically a good thing.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I don’t understand why people panic when they test a bunch of people and find out a bunch of them have it that DIDNT even know it? Seems we would be happy, that means that the death rate is much much lower.

yep.

I also hate the glee that is shown when someone who is against current shut down is then diagnosed as positive. like it's some kind of "I told you so idiot"

we realize this is a real illness. we realize it can get some people very sick and they may die. we just disagree that this is enough to destroy our economy over

what if China said in three months they are going to nuke us and invade if we don't surrender immediately? they project 60 million deaths in the US. are we supposed to capitulate?

 

[Vigilant]

yep.I also hate the glee that is shown when someone who is against current shut down is then diagnosed as positive. like it's some kind of "I told you so idiot"we realize this is a real illness. we realize it can get some people very sick and they may die. we just disagree that this is enough to destroy our economy overwhat if China said in three months they are going to nuke us and invade if we don't surrender immediately? they project 60 million deaths in the US. are we supposed to capitulate?

Well, we’re used to capitulation by now, so...

 

[Dead Duck]

Serious question.
I read that the virus stays alive for 24 hrs on paper products.
If so, why are the surgical masks, made of paper, thrown away rather than just set aside for 24 hrs.
I'm not asking about medical uses as the other bacteria are still on the masks. But for general public use of half an hour in the grocery why can't they be reused?

Or to be safe have 7 masks and wear one a day then start over. Or something similar.


OR

Buy one of these.

Bonus.... Social Distancing will be easier.

 

[Leadeye]

'cause the banks will close up and I won't have to pay.

Cool.

Seriously, with this whole "banks collapsing" thing, apparently I don't have nearly enough debt.

Who has more debt that anybody in the country? The government of course.

 

[Leadeye]

yep.

I also hate the glee that is shown when someone who is against current shut down is then diagnosed as positive. like it's some kind of "I told you so idiot"

we realize this is a real illness. we realize it can get some people very sick and they may die. we just disagree that this is enough to destroy our economy over

what if China said in three months they are going to nuke us and invade if we don't surrender immediately? they project 60 million deaths in the US. are we supposed to capitulate?

The chinese have certainly been trying hard to get a close look at the W-88, I think that would be arranged if they started in with nukes.

 

[Sigblitz]

Speaking of TP, was in Kroger yesterday and saw some TP on the shelves. I was really surprised. I didn't buy any because we have some. But it was encouraging seeing it on the shelf.

My wife was using her $5 off CVS coupons on TP. We had 4 mega packs before SHTF. We stock up. Good thing.

 

[Ingomike]

yep.

I also hate the glee that is shown when someone who is against current shut down is then diagnosed as positive. like it's some kind of "I told you so idiot"

we realize this is a real illness. we realize it can get some people very sick and they may die. we just disagree that this is enough to destroy our economy over

what if China said in three months they are going to nuke us and invade if we don't surrender immediately? they project 60 million deaths in the US. are we supposed to capitulate?

Well, we’re used to capitulation by now, so...

Can't give either of you any rep right now...

 

[Snapdragon]

[h=1]Top Manhattan ER doc commits suicide, shaken by coronavirus onslaught[/h]
https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/manha...CEr1jpQjXzbT6T9e1ND-gm3JCeH3eemFJJ-zaf8GfpFYE

 

[Dead Duck]

Top Manhattan ER doc commits suicide, shaken by coronavirus onslaught


https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/manha...CEr1jpQjXzbT6T9e1ND-gm3JCeH3eemFJJ-zaf8GfpFYE

Suicide?
I don't know. I am NOT into conspiracies but since this thing started NY has had a bunch of whistleblowers getting silenced. Could this be the next step? I sure hope the truth comes out of NY for all our sakes.

 

[KMaC]

They could be provided a few other things.

1) Let's say you did not sneeze on it
2) Let's say it's still clean/good working order

Then yes it can be and if you have nothing else should.
But this is 'merica where the are now 1000% scared and will obey whatever .gov says. So they were told to stay indoors, to wear a mask and toss it, to wash their hands, to not hig/kiss/etc.. and MOST IMPORTANKY that chicken nuggets are still avaliable!

Since masks have become hard to get and "experts" aren't impressed with the homemade versions, it seems foolish to throw a mask away after wearing it for a half hour. But that's the American way, commit waste and then complain about lack of supplies.

Oh, and I'm not putting a mask back on if I sneeze in it whether I have covid or not.

 

[BugI02]

To say I am being hypocritical is fine too, if evidence is provided to substantiate the claim. Once the evidence is produced, I will respond. An argument usually has premises leading to a conclusion. Stating the conclusion itself as fact is not a form of argument I am familiar with, but I don't claim to know everything. In my understanding, hypocrisy involves a temporal element. If I am saying and doing one thing then another and back, that would make a strong case. If I said something 5 years ago and new information surfaces that changes my mind then that is not hyprocrisy.

Proverbs, written by Solomon, the richest guy in the world who was using that wealth to build churches. It may not define greed, but it can surely shed light on what greed is not. Luke 12:21 certainly does tell us something about greed and it certainly doesn't incriminate Solomon.

[Proverbs 15 begins with " A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger"]

Any further discussion of scripture passages though should be moved to one of the religious forums, agree?
Any further discussion of Trump and my alleged hypocrisy should be in a political forum, agree?

[D'accord. Since we are specifying proper threads, IMO perhaps it would be proper to avoid threads such as this, where useful information is being exchanged, if you want to surface and complain about Trump. It is not the proper thread for that, no? You are welcome to start your own thread about Trump's poopyheadedness but I suspect you won't because - IMO - you want to post in a popular threads because you want to spark a reaction and you suspect a Trump poopyhead thread wouldn't have very many viewers. As long as we are clear that posting in that manner in a thread I'm active in will always get pushback, and that I wouldn't come into the 'All things Orthodox' thread just to critique the GOC or Bart I for the aggravating effect - because you know, it wouldn't be proper - then, moving on]

We have moved on from Trump and Coronavirus which is on topic to other things.

Remember what I said about how people react quite differently when the horn gets near their ox

Over and out

 

[Phase2]

Since masks have become hard to get and "experts" aren't impressed with the homemade versions

The "experts" lied and threw away a lot of their credibility for no good reason. People got fixated on N95s early on and the "experts" downplayed the value of other kinds of masks to everyone's detriment.

Oh, and I'm not putting a mask back on if I sneeze in it whether I have covid or not.

Serious question: Why not? It's not like you are going to catch any disease from it.