Coronavirus

[Keith_Indy]

Totally understand and agree. Unfortunately cold and flu are very similar in symptoms to coronavirus. That results in a lot of people going in who otherwise might treat at home. Unfortunately, that adds to the load and stress at the hospitals.

I'm definitely not panicked or trying to encourage panic, but do think that people need to be aware and prepared. Good preps actually reduce the strain on centralized care systems.

Totally agree, in times of crisis, the people who prepare and don't panic are more likely to survive.

Was thinking of this on the way back from the store, bought some extra hand sanitize and cold meds. Wonder how many of the Chinese patients waited to see a doctor until after "ancient Chinese medicine" failed to clear up symptoms.

 

[Keith_Indy]

A clearer picture of the deaths from one center.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

Of the 99 patients with 2019-nCoV pneumonia, 49 (49%) had a history of exposure to the Huanan seafood market. The average age of the patients was 55·5 years (SD 13·1), including 67 men and 32 women. 2019-nCoV was detected in all patients by real-time RT-PCR. 50 (51%) patients had chronic diseases. Patients had clinical manifestations of fever (82 [83%] patients), cough (81 [82%] patients), shortness of breath (31 [31%] patients), muscle ache (11 [11%] patients), confusion (nine [9%] patients), headache (eight [8%] patients), sore throat (five [5%] patients), rhinorrhoea (four [4%] patients), chest pain (two [2%] patients), diarrhoea (two [2%] patients), and nausea and vomiting (one [1%] patient). According to imaging examination, 74 (75%) patients showed bilateral pneumonia, 14 (14%) patients showed multiple mottling and ground-glass opacity, and one (1%) patient had pneumothorax. 17 (17%) patients developed acute respiratory distress syndrome and, among them, 11 (11%) patients worsened in a short period of time and died of multiple organ failure.
Interpretation

The 2019-nCoV infection was of clustering onset, is more likely to affect older males with comorbidities, and can result in severe and even fatal respiratory diseases such as acute respiratory distress syndrome. In general, characteristics of patients who died were in line with the MuLBSTA score, an early warning model for predicting mortality in viral pneumonia. Further investigation is needed to explore the applicability of the MuLBSTA score in predicting the risk of mortality in 2019-nCoV infection.

 

[jamil]

i had a fever of 102.3 last night, so I think i might have it.

What the hell are you doing POSTING ON INGO! You could infect us.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

hurry put this on your posts

 

[jamil]

Thanks for the link. Very disturbing and very brave. He likely signed his death warrant at the end. The guy makes many good points. One part:


And this is why I think the actual numbers are far higher than the "confirmed cases" number. He talks about people not being able to get to a hospital at all or visiting multiple hospitals because they can't get any attention. I understand that hospitals practice for major events- pandemics, large-scale accidents, etc. and they would be strained or even overwhelmed. That is exactly what this looks like. You do not see hospitals overrun like this from regular flu.

To those that say that flu has killed more people so coronavirus is nothing, please watch the video. 98% of the confirmed cases have been in China, so seeing what they are dealing with is informative. It hasn't had a significant impact in the US yet and if we are very, very lucky, it won't. In the meantime, take some time to prep and do what you can to be as healthy as possible. If coronavirus comes to the US in a serious way, home health care may be the best/only option available.

Exactly. China is a demonstration of what this could be. People shouldn't panic. It's not here in any significant numbers. And if we act responsibly we can keep it from becoming the problem it is over there. The anxiety is understandable because of the potential impact.

 

[jamil]

hurry put this on your posts

Hey, I'm safe. I have the Vader mask. I'm just concerned for you unprotected people.

 

[Vigilant]

i had a fever of 102.3 last night, so I think i might have it.

Quick pee on your fingers!

 

[jamil]

Quick pee on your fingers!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Vigilant again.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Article along the lines of my comments ie, China being a state controlled economy...

https://humanevents.com/2020/01/29/wuhan-a-human-catastrophe/

According to the information shared by Dr. Huang, however, many doctors from ‘first-and second-grade hospitals’ in major cities along the southeast coast have reached a consensus. They believe that the definite number of infections is five to six times the number officially announced by China, including those who have not been confirmed. The number of deaths, they estimate, is two to three times the official announcement.

“A Wuhan doctor told me that they have no choice. There are no more beds in hospitals. They can only refuse to accept patients. With or without confirmation, they can only send patients home. The doctor’s order is self-quarantine. This is an advanced warning of the scarcity of Wuhan medical resources,” Dr. Huang said. The number of deaths is still being counted. According to Dr. Huang, many of the unreported deaths were located in other small cities of Hubei, such as Huanggang and Enshi.




To meet patient demands, at least four hospitals, the non-respiratory-related offices or departments in many hospitals have become quarantine wards. Yet the Hubei provincial government is still trying to cover up most information from the public.


On Weibo, posts from Wuhan people seeking help can be seen everywhere, most of which stem from their family members being sick but refusing to take medical treatments because they’ve been placated by the Chinese government’s lackadaisical attitude. We can only conclude from these desperate pleas that the medical system in Hubei is paralyzed.

 

[Expat]

What the hell are you doing POSTING ON INGO! You could infect us.

Who says I am not a ChiCom bioweapon beta tester for the internet spread....

 

[jamil]

Who says I am not a ChiCom bioweapon beta tester for the internet spread....

Meh, I'm running antivirus. And I have the mask.

 

[Vigilant]

Who says I am not a ChiCom bioweapon beta tester for the internet spread....

Internet spread? Is that like that disgusting fake ham salad you buy in the “deli”on the other side of the tracks that's made with something so vile they dare not even give it the baloney name? If so, I’ll take a half pint container please. But you MUST sterilize your hands first!

 

[jamil]

Never put internet spread on a baloney sandwich.

 

[Vigilant]

Never put internet spread on a baloney sandwich.

My bad, I thought he said internet Beto taster not tester!? Oops.

 

[Dead Duck]

Internet Spread?

Isn't that PORN?

 

[Vigilant]

Internet Spread?

Isn't that PORN?

Possibly, but Beto Taster is definitely PORN! Seriously ****ed up disabled midget fisting PORN! Can I borrow your MasterCard?

 

[Keith_Indy]

https://www.wthr.com/article/suspected-indiana-case-coronavirus-tests-negative

A suspected case of coronavirus in Indiana has tested negative for the virus.The patient in Porter County had recently been to China and had the symptoms of novel coronavirus.
They were tested by the CDC and came back negative for the presence of the virus.
The patient's health improved and on Friday they were released from medical care.

 

[jedi]

Hum... somehow I dont trust that.

 

[smokingman]

An adult made in Santa Clara County, California, has tested positive, according to the Count of Santa Clara Public Health Department.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-31-20-intl-hnk/index.html

Let this be a lesson to all. If you are going to make adults do not use parts from the infected area in China.




The Trump administration announced a ban on foreign national travel for those who have been in China within the last 14 days, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced Friday.
The United States, Azar said, is "temporarily suspending the entry into the United States of foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the 2019 novel coronavirus."
Azar noted that any US citizen who has been in the Hubei Province in the last 14 days will be subject to up to 14 days of mandatory quarantine upon return to the United States. US citizens returning from the rest of mainland China who have been there in the last 14 days will undergo screening at US ports of entry and up to 14 days of self-monitoring.
The ban will be in effect beginning at 5 p.m. ET Sunday.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Vigilant again.

Got him! (But I washed my hands first.)