Common OC/CC threadjack

[redneckmedic]

 

[public servant]

That would be like saying a baseball player is probably gay because he wears a uniform that is tight on his ass and legs.

Thank God The Sultan of Swat didn't live to read this... He didn't mean it Babe.

 

[jsgolfman]

Damn guys calm down!! Look...common sense dictates that one does not walk around with his weapon exposed. It is perfectly legal to walk around with your loaded long gun slung across you shoulder. Surely to goodness you will not say that you would walk into Walmart like that ...would you? Just because you can!! Sure different, but yet the same really.


As a LEO I do not walk around in civilian clothes with my badge and weapon exposed. CCW 1 o 1-never let anyone see your gun.

To the nay sayer on an intimidation charge, make no mistake about it,you get in a tiff with someone and you have a weapon exposed, you are flirting with legal disaster. You have no merit to a lawsuit for a person calling in on you. You have no merit to a lawsuit for being detained and or questioned after a person makes a legitimate call about you having an exposed weapon.

People running around doing the open carry silliness will do more harm to the CCW laws in this state that just about anything.

You will find very few people as passionate as me for all things firearms-DO NOT CALL ME ANTI GUN!!

Be smart,don't be an idiot, if you carry a weapon,wear a long tailed shirt and cover the damn thing up. Really...we shouldn't even be having this conversation. Common sense guys...common sense. Jeeeezzzz.

Gee, thanks for the well reasoned input. Anyone else you want to offend tonight? Let's hear some more of that fact based expertise.

 

[ATM]

...CCW 1 o 1-never let anyone see your gun.
I don't have a CCW, it's an LTCH. I missed that class.
To the nay sayer on an intimidation charge, make no mistake about it,you get in a tiff with someone and you have a weapon exposed, you are flirting with legal disaster. You have no merit to a lawsuit for a person calling in on you. You have no merit to a lawsuit for being detained and or questioned after a person makes a legitimate call about you having an exposed weapon.
What's legitimate about calling in a legal action? It's ridiculous.
People running around doing the open carry silliness will do more harm to the CCW laws in this state that just about anything.
Again with the CCW? Where do you live? What harm is going to happen?
You will find very few people as passionate as me for all things firearms-DO NOT CALL ME ANTI GUN!!
I'll only call you ANTI OC, which you share with the ANTI GUN crowd.

Be smart,don't be an idiot, if you carry a weapon,wear a long tailed shirt and cover the damn thing up. Really...we shouldn't even be having this conversation. Common sense guys...common sense. Jeeeezzzz.

No thank you. You may win me over with better arguments but so far, your reasoning hasn't come across as smart or common sense. Jeeeez.

 

[VUPDblue]

And in your neck of the woods, I'd think you saw OC more frequently than most...

Damn guys calm down!! Look...common sense dictates that one does not walk around with his weapon exposed. It is perfectly legal to walk around with your loaded long gun slung across you shoulder. Surely to goodness you will not say that you would walk into Walmart like that ...would you? Just because you can!! Sure different, but yet the same really.


As a LEO I do not walk around in civilian clothes with my badge and weapon exposed. CCW 1 o 1-never let anyone see your gun.

To the nay sayer on an intimidation charge, make no mistake about it,you get in a tiff with someone and you have a weapon exposed, you are flirting with legal disaster. You have no merit to a lawsuit for a person calling in on you. You have no merit to a lawsuit for being detained and or questioned after a person makes a legitimate call about you having an exposed weapon.

People running around doing the open carry silliness will do more harm to the CCW laws in this state that just about anything.

You will find very few people as passionate as me for all things firearms-DO NOT CALL ME ANTI GUN!!

Be smart,don't be an idiot, if you carry a weapon,wear a long tailed shirt and cover the damn thing up. Really...we shouldn't even be having this conversation. Common sense guys...common sense. Jeeeezzzz.

 

[ATM]

And please keep it civil folks. I like this thread and have not really received an answer yet to my OP. Continue debating without name calling and we'll all have a good time.

Some of the readers may even learn something. (Probably not us posters.)

 

[j706]

Gee, thanks for the well reasoned input. Anyone else you want to offend tonight? Let's hear some more of that fact based expertise.

Sorry if I offended anyone. That is the last thing I intended to do and I mean that sincerely.

 

[j706]

And in your neck of the woods, I'd think you saw OC more frequently than most...

You know I can't think of the last time I saw someone carrying openly. And for what it is worth,in the course of my duty's I would not hassle them more than likely unless dispatched on a call for it. I incidentally have never been sent on a call like that either.

 

[j706]

So am I clear in the reasoning behind open carry is that it keeps the bad guys from messing with you?

 

[ATM]

Sorry if I offended anyone. That is the last thing I intended to do and I mean that sincerely.

Your debate is welcome but we don't think of ourselves as idiots or lacking common sense for what we practice. We are willing to defend our reasons and have in many past debates. Read some and add to them if you like.

Here was one of my favorites. Long but good stuff:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...nse/17675-my_experiences_with_open_carry.html

 

[j706]

Your debate is welcome but we don't think of ourselves as idiots or lacking common sense for what we practice. We are willing to defend our reasons and have in many past debates. Read some and add to them if you like.

Here was one of my favorites. Long but good stuff:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...nse/17675-my_experiences_with_open_carry.html

Will Do.

 

[VUPDblue]

You know I can't think of the last time I saw someone carrying openly. And for what it is worth,in the course of my duty's I would not hassle them more than likely unless dispatched on a call for it. I incidentally have never been sent on a call like that either.

And in your patrol area I wouldn't expect you to be sent on a call like that. I don't often see people OCing either, but when I do I don't have much of a reaction. Especially in small town America, it should not be cause for concern. In fact, I'd think it would be more likely to spark a conversation...

At the CoOp: Hey Joe, is that a new Kimber I see? Yep, sure is. I traded in my old one for this here beauty. Good deal, whatcha need? I need 4000# of 12-12-12. I'll get right on that. Enjoy your new gun!

 

[jsgolfman]

Sorry if I offended anyone. That is the last thing I intended to do and I mean that sincerely.

Thanks. My tone wasn't very respectful either, my apologies.

 

[j706]

Thanks. My tone wasn't very respectful either, my apologies.

No need for that. I am just attempting to understand the thinking. I am trying.

 

[Joe Williams]

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You will find very few people as passionate as me for all things firearms-DO NOT CALL ME ANTI GUN!!

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[Joe Williams]

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To the nay sayer on an intimidation charge, make no mistake about it,you get in a tiff with someone and you have a weapon exposed, you are flirting with legal disaster. You have no merit to a lawsuit for a person calling in on you. You have no merit to a lawsuit for being detained and or questioned after a person makes a legitimate call about you having an exposed weapon.

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There are a number of court rulings that show you incorrect re: whether or not one would have basis for filing a lawsuit against a criminal with a badge who made an arrest, or even an detention, based purely on open carry. Such actions are clearly illegal. The fact that some thugs are incapable of enforcing the law as it is instead of how they wish it were is why those court cases exist. You have identified yourself as a police officer, Here's hoping you don't abuse your badge in the manner you seem to advocate. What department, btw?

 

[Bubba]

So am I clear in the reasoning behind open carry is that it keeps the bad guys from messing with you?

I'm pretty sure comfort plays a big role for many OCers. My wife wears pointy heels that she complains hurt her feet for no constructive reason other than appearances. Is it the suggestion of some in this thread that I force myself to wear unnecessary layers and sweat more than necessary, or endure chafing where the muzzle end of a holster rubs the skin inside my pants, simply for appearances, or for a nebulous idea of "the purpose", or fear of sheeple? I will be the first to admit that I CC 99% of the time, mainly due to retention concerns, and when carrying a BUG the holdout is always hidden, but I'll be damned if I'm going to wear a sweat soaked overshirt for no other reason to keep some people happy.

 

[JosephR]

Noone is telling you that you HAVE to CC or SHOULDN'T OC. We just want you to know that there are drawbacks to OC'ing, or at least there are in my mind.

I've never sweated my ass off while CC'ing. I've also never chafed myself or gotten a rash from a holster. I usually wear a tshirt under my normal shirt. It's not hard to stay comfortable and dry. I'm not sure what some of you are up to though...

 

[Bubba]

I'm not sure what some of you are up to though...

Stuffing my face, mostly. Try a 2 hour drive or a walk through the park with an IWB and an overshirt at 335lbs.

 

[JosephR]

Well ok then...