CIVIL RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION: General Religious Discussion...

[JettaKnight]

What's the thought on Hank Hanigraff coming out as Orthodox?

Personally, I was sad to see Bott throw him overboard as a quickly possible.

 

[JettaKnight]

Anybody read this book or know something about it?

https://academic.logos.com/salvatio...e-alone-matthew-bates-in-the-hot-seat-part-1/

I don't think I have brought it up here before, but I have been taught over the years as an Orthodox, that the original greek, pistis, meant more like fidelity than a mental assent or intellectual belief.

This book seems to be taking almost the same path from a protestant perspective.

From the overview of the book:

We are saved by faith when we trust that Jesus died for our sins. This is the gospel, or so we are taught. But what is faith? And does this accurately summarize the gospel? Because faith is frequently misunderstood and...

Nope.

We are saved by grace alone through faith alone.

 

[T.Lex]

What's the thought on Hank Hanigraff coming out as Orthodox?

Personally, I was sad to see Bott throw him overboard as a quickly possible.

Probably better than if he'd been Catholic. People scratch their head at Orthodoxy. They get angry at Catholicism.

 

[JettaKnight]

Probably better than if he'd been Catholic. People scratch their head at Orthodoxy. They get angry at Catholicism.

Well, he's still alive, I don't think he'd survive a switch to Catholicism.

 

[T.Lex]

Well, he's still alive, I don't think he'd survive a switch to Catholicism.

Only the strong do.

 

[ATM]

...People scratch their head at Orthodoxy.

They get angry at Catholicism.

Wow, you're right!

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Trump is going to speak about Islam in Saudi Arabia.

I hope he calls it a religion of peace... oh who am I kidding, he definitely will.

 

[foszoe]

What's the thought on Hank Hanigraff coming out as Orthodox?

Personally, I was sad to see Bott throw him overboard as a quickly possible.

1 Peter 4:12-19

Matthew 5:11,12

Luke 21:13-19

 

[foszoe]

From the overview of the book:

Nope.

We are saved by grace alone through faith alone.

One Protestant disagreeing with another on the fundamentals. I think in the last year I've almost, if I haven't actually, given up trying to understand more fully all the different groups. Lot's of great slogans. Protestantism is the master of marketing though. Great slogans, great sound bites, and sooner or later one can find a brand to be loyal to, for awhile, until something comes up. Or the brand loyalty remains but the community gets shopped every so often. Eventually, if nothing suits, invent one! As long as we agree on the fundamentals. Oh wait...

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Robot priest unveiled in Germany to mark 500 years since Reformation

ok which sign of the apocalypse is this

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Robot priest unveiled in Germany to mark 500 years since Reformation

ok which sign of the apocalypse is this

Nothing new, the clockwork monk beat him to it by nearly 500 years...

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A Clockwork Miracle - Radiolab

 

[JettaKnight]

Robot priest unveiled in Germany to mark 500 years since Reformation

ok which sign of the apocalypse is this

I expected something much different, but it's actually not too different than:

 

[ATM]

So...are you saying I cannot have my own, personal Jesus?

Someone to hear my prayers, someone who cares?

You could make a mint cloning Jesus, and renting the clone as a motivational speaker.

I don't know about that. Old school Jesus motivational is not what a modern audience wants to hear.

They'd crucify Him in the media.

^^^ LMAO

Remember that?

It was funny, wasn't it?

Then.

Most people don't want much truth, certainly not the hard parts, where it threatens and exposes deception within ourselves.

 

[hog slayer]

I'll accept the move. There is a challenge to those who believe they can present a stronger case for evolution than creation.

Make your stand

 

[BehindBlueI's]

There is a challenge to those who believe they can present a stronger case for evolution than creation.

Why would it have to be one or the other?

Do we also need to choose between prayer and medicine, or can both co-exist? My uncle needed a liver after an industrial accident cut his abdomen open and left so much scar tissue and infection his was not functioning. Can you not pray and accept God's mechanism of an organ donor and a surgeon? Must God will a new liver into place by no visible or detectable means for it to be the answering of a prayer? Even if there was completely irrefutable proof of evolution, does that somehow deny God as a creator? Surely not. God's mechanisms are his, regardless of how (and if) we understand them. As such, what's the point of the debate? If the theory of evolution provides predictive power, use it as such. If it does not provide predictive power, than it's useless and is to be discarded. It's a tool, as are all scientific theories. It can address our understanding of "how", it can never answer "why".

 

[RobbyMaQ]

Remember that?

It was funny, wasn't it?

Then.

Most people don't want much truth, certainly not the hard parts, where it threatens and exposes deception within ourselves.

Holy crap...
I can honestly say...
You didn't get it.
And I am more surprised that PaulF did

 

[foszoe]

Why would it have to be one or the other?

Do we also need to choose between prayer and medicine, or can both co-exist? My uncle needed a liver after an industrial accident cut his abdomen open and left so much scar tissue and infection his was not functioning. Can you not pray and accept God's mechanism of an organ donor and a surgeon? Must God will a new liver into place by no visible or detectable means for it to be the answering of a prayer? Even if there was completely irrefutable proof of evolution, does that somehow deny God as a creator? Surely not. God's mechanisms are his, regardless of how (and if) we understand them. As such, what's the point of the debate? If the theory of evolution provides predictive power, use it as such. If it does not provide predictive power, than it's useless and is to be discarded. It's a tool, as are all scientific theories. It can address our understanding of "how", it can never answer "why".

When one is willing to take an I don't know default position and use bits and pieces of 2 viewpoints that others view as diametrically opposed then one can be rewarded with learning new things that others miss.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose freewill

 

[ArcadiaGP]

The head of the Church of England admits that it helped to hide sex abuse of boys and young men by one of its bishops.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/877843728932757504

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The head of the Church of England admits that it helped to hide sex abuse of boys and young men by one of its bishops.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/877843728932757504

A quick glance at thecommts below that tweet reminds me, Twitter is a cesspool...