CIVIL RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION: All things Christianity

[JettaKnight]

(scrolling up to see how this started)

Trump is antichrist

Oh, hi Foszoe!

Hey, I was thinking about you this week - We're off to Bulgaria so will be visiting many Orthodox churches, including Rila Monastery.

 

[T.Lex]

... he's an imperfect, man who has not matured in faith...or otherwise.

Yeah, that's where I see him at, spiritually.

Now, he's still got time left, so things might change.

 

[Dead Duck]

Trump is the chosen One.

 

[HoughMade]

Trump is the chosen One.

Well sure...the electoral college chose him.

 

[2A_Tom]

As long as God has us here there is time for all of us.

 

[T.Lex]

Trump is the chosen One.

Judas was chosen for his task, too.

 

[JettaKnight]

Judas was chosen for his task, too.

Just about did a spit-take while reading that during lunch!

 

[historian]

IKR?


I had friend in college with all the charts...

Basically, dispensationalist are the opposite of covenantalist. I believe John MacArthur is a dispenstationalist.

I'm a dispensationalist. I can't dig covenantalists. They want to have "Christendom" writ large, but the Reformation pretty much did it in. The funny thing was that the fight for pedo-baptism and covenantalism is that the reformers still believed in a single catholic church that encompassed Europe.

Here is a chart for you T.

 

[NKBJ]

Used to draw out charts.
Then I realized that persons and events are set in place as prophetic archetypes / examples of what was yet to come.
Oh well. Time is getting pretty short now and I still don't know all the questions.

 

[2A_Tom]

We shall understand it better by and by.

Hebrews 10:22-25 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised: ) and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

 

[NKBJ]

Being Christian is absolutely fascinating and wonderful.
But it occasionally becomes rather too interesting when evil locally gains the upper hand, like when the Jacobins take over.
This wackadoodle looks like the shape of things to come (no apologies to H. G. Wells).
https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/K...cHhaDoHLyYf-vID1-pVD-LpkB_P9foLlCoFjoLeugPZOE

And speaking of Wells, ever read his nonfiction such as Phoenix?

 

[historian]

So...Reading a book on the Reformation, and holy cow, so much doctrine came about because of civil wars. J.K., you would love it.

 

[JettaKnight]

So...Reading a book on the Reformation, and holy cow, so much doctrine came about because of civil wars. J.K., you would love it.

That books looks like a deep dive - farther than my history classes went.

 

[historian]

That books looks like a deep dive - farther than my history classes went.

Well...that isn't a high bar to clear. It isn't that deep as it is an overview and a synthesis work. I have issues reading him as he keeps things chronologically so people keep coming in and out. Once you get used to the structure, it isn't bad.

 

[JettaKnight]

Well...that isn't a high bar to clear. It isn't that deep as it is an overview and a synthesis work. I have issues reading him as he keeps things chronologically so people keep coming in and out. Once you get used to the structure, it isn't bad.

To the contrary, I do have a minor in history - the majority of classes were church history, so a lot of time spent on the reformation.


In other news, last night I got a chance to see Preston Sprinkle speaking in Ft. Wayne. I really can't say enough good things about his work at the Center for Faith, Sexuality and Gender.
https://centerforfaith.com/

TL/DR: How (and why) do we hold to a traditional Biblical view of marriage and yet extend grace and compassion for those struggling with their sexuality and gender issue.

 

[HoughMade]

...How (and why) do we hold to a traditional Biblical view of marriage and yet extend grace and compassion for those struggling with their sexuality and gender issue.

Why wouldn't we? Name a person without struggles and I'll name a liar or insane person. We all need grace and compassion, though grace and compassion do not make wrong, right. We could certainly stand to be less mean-spirited and dismissive.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Why wouldn't we? Name a person without struggles and I'll name a liar or insane person. We all need grace and compassion, though grace and compassion do not make wrong, right. We could certainly stand to be less mean-spirited and dismissive.

Yep. Same way you help someone dealing with alcoholism or pride or lying. Sin is sin.

 

[historian]

To the contrary, I do have a minor in history - the majority of classes were church history, so a lot of time spent on the reformation.


In other news, last night I got a chance to see Preston Sprinkle speaking in Ft. Wayne. I really can't say enough good things about his work at the Center for Faith, Sexuality and Gender.
https://centerforfaith.com/

TL/DR: How (and why) do we hold to a traditional Biblical view of marriage and yet extend grace and compassion for those struggling with their sexuality and gender issue.

Well...I stand corrected...mea culpa (in the parlance of T.), I was running on the assumption that you had the traditional "history elective" that everyone in college takes. As we all know about assumptions....

So yeah...if you have a minor in history this isn't very deep at all, but it does give really good context to theology. We like to pull theology out of history and set it up as its own field, but, for instance, the five points are the direct result of a brutal Dutch civil war. I'm also finding good areas of theology that I hadn't dove into. I found out about William Perkins and he authenticated my theological struggles quite well. I'm glad to put my struggles into a context that makes better sense to me https://unlockingthebible.org/2019/04/common-faith-saving-faith-william-perkins/ (I had the "temporary" faith).

 

[HoughMade]

New Martin Luther-Shaped Amazon Echo Will Rudely Answer All Your Theology Questions

https://babylonbee.com/news/new-mar...on-echo-will-rudely-answer-theology-questions

 

[T.Lex]

We like to pull theology out of history and set it up as its own field, but, for instance, the five points are the direct result of a brutal Dutch civil war.

This has always been interesting to me, too. There are undeniable "current events" (whenever "current" happens to be in history) that influence or even form the genesis of doctrine.