Apple Won't Create 'Backdoor' to Help FBI Access San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

[HoughMade]

Either the fed gov is the all seeing, all knowing, all powerful overlord or its so incompetent it can't hack a single phone with unlimited resources and time.

Which is it?

 

[printcraft]

Pure speculation (read bull****) but.... They might want to know how because it might have taken insider knowledge, ie former employee special access, to get into the phone.

Again, if this gets out in the open, like everything else the .gov does with the exception of aliens and jfk, then all bets are off on iphone security.

 

[JettaKnight]

Darrell Issa was on a radio show last evening. Don't know if he knew what he was talking about or not, but he made reference to physically deconstructing the phone as the means to how they got out the data.

He does. While not quite the same, he made his fortune in car alarms.

 

[indiucky]

Either the fed gov is the all seeing, all knowing, all powerful overlord or its so incompetent it can't hack a single phone with unlimited resources and time.

Which is it?

Thanks Hough...With your permission I am saving that little tidbit for the next 9/11 conspiracy thread......(I will credit you of course...)

 

[jbombelli]

Either the fed gov is the all seeing, all knowing, all powerful overlord or its so incompetent it can't hack a single phone with unlimited resources and time.

Which is it?

Both, with a touch of petty vindictiveness on top?

 

[BugI02]

Pure speculation (read bull****) but.... They might want to know how because it might have taken insider knowledge, ie former employee special access, to get into the phone.

Again, if this gets out in the open, like everything else the .gov does with the exception of aliens and jfk, then all bets are off on iphone security.

What I just don't get is as you leave to court certain death as a martyr to jihad, why don't you just brick the phone. Are you expecting some important call or text in the middle of your glorious death?

 

[Tombs]

Either the fed gov is the all seeing, all knowing, all powerful overlord or its so incompetent it can't hack a single phone with unlimited resources and time.

Which is it?

Or they play stupid to enlist public outrage so they can attempt to get a master key when they don't need it and just want to easily crack all phones.

What I just don't get is as you leave to court certain death as a martyr to jihad, why don't you just brick the phone. Are you expecting some important call or text in the middle of your glorious death?

You expect intelligence from someone who's greatest accomplishment boils down to violence against the defenseless?

 

[24Carat]

I'm not convinced they have hacked it. Until some credible info is released that actually leads to something I am comfortable asserting it has been a shell game. They were ticked that Apple had the audacity and didn't bow down, the assertion they hacked it is moot because they can claim silence about anything "uncovered" because of national security. Clearly I initially view everything from our government with my "They are lying spectacles" on !

 

[Leadeye]

Either the fed gov is the all seeing, all knowing, all powerful overlord or its so incompetent it can't hack a single phone with unlimited resources and time.

Which is it?

Coin toss.

I'm still betting big silicon valley money spoke and the administration listened.

Always follow the money

 

[Jludo]

I'm not convinced they have hacked it. Until some credible info is released that actually leads to something I am comfortable asserting it has been a shell game. They were ticked that Apple had the audacity and didn't bow down, the assertion they hacked it is moot because they can claim silence about anything "uncovered" because of national security. Clearly I initially view everything from our government with my "They are lying spectacles" on !

That assumes there's something worthwhile on the phone, which there very well may not be.

 

[Alpo]

They want what they want because they want it. Feebs have never cared about individual citizens, otherwise they wouldn't use stings and Hoover wouldn't have had Ellsberg's file.

Homeland Security is and will always be a danger to liberty.

 

[printcraft]

What I just don't get is as you leave to court certain death as a martyr to jihad, why don't you just brick the phone. Are you expecting some important call or text in the middle of your glorious death?

At a minimum a soak in some salt water and a few solid hammer strikes should be all she wrote.

Also I had to make salt-water two words.... Sal****er.

 

[24Carat]

That assumes there's something worthwhile on the phone, which there very well may not be.

Worthwhile or not, ulterior motives can clamp anything shut for 30 years + !!

 

[jamil]

They want what they want because they want it. Feebs have never cared about individual citizens, otherwise they wouldn't use stings and Hoover wouldn't have had Ellsberg's file.

Homeland Security is and will always be a danger to liberty.

Well, there's something we agree on.

 

[Jludo]

They want what they want because they want it. Feebs have never cared about individual citizens, otherwise they wouldn't use stings and Hoover wouldn't have had Ellsberg's file.

Homeland Security is and will always be a danger to liberty.

You just want to see kids killed by terrorists you monster...

 

[BugI02]

Either the fed gov is the all seeing, all knowing, all powerful overlord or its so incompetent it can't hack a single phone with unlimited resources and time.

Which is it?

Red pill or blue pill?

 

[BugI02]

Or they play stupid to enlist public outrage so they can attempt to get a master key when they don't need it and just want to easily crack all phones.



You expect intelligence from someone who's greatest accomplishment boils down to violence against the defenseless?

Perhaps not intelligence but surely animal cunning. Isn't there a Martyrdom for Dummies yet?

 

[BugI02]

At a minimum a soak in some salt water and a few solid hammer strikes should be all she wrote.

Also I had to make salt-water two words.... Sal****er.

Or just deliberately enter the wrong passcode 10x

 

[ArcadiaGP]

 

[BogWalker]

So now I'm wondering if they actually found anything, or if the whole "we cracked it" announcement was just a bluff to save face.