Apple Won't Create 'Backdoor' to Help FBI Access San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

[BigBoxaJunk]

He can get out any time he wants to.

Yes, but if probable cause says anything, probably only temporarily.

Maybe he'd rather be locked up for contempt than for the other charge.

 

[HoughMade]

Yes, but if probable cause says anything, probably only temporarily.

Maybe he'd rather be locked up for contempt than for the other charge.

Probaby.

It's his choice, though.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Probaby.

It's his choice, though.

So... he has no 5th amendment rights?

The other charge remains alleged.

 

[HoughMade]

So... he has no 5th amendment rights?

The other charge remains alleged.

He isn't being held for a crime. 5th Amendment? He is free to litigate the validity of the court order. That's otherwise known as "due process".

 

[actaeon277]

If you wrote notes in code, are you now required to decipher them? Isn't that "self incrimination"?
Didn't the government used to hire people to break codes?
So if they used to hire people to break codes, why is that not possible now, since a locked drive is just a code?

 

[BogWalker]

If they have a warrant to search your home, which you know to have incriminating evidence in it, is refusing to unlock the door legitimate under Fifth Amendment protections?

The Apple case was different in that they were trying to force an entity uninvolved with the crime to comply, which everyone agreed was a no-go situation.

 

[poptab]

He isn't being held for a crime. 5th Amendment? He is free to litigate the validity of the court order. That's otherwise known as "due process".

It's possible that he can't decrypt the drive because there isn't anything to decrypt.
Also even if he provides a key doesn't mean everything will be decrypted.

 

[poptab]

If they have a warrant to search your home, which you know to have incriminating evidence in it, is refusing to unlock the door legitimate under Fifth Amendment protections?

The Apple case was different in that they were trying to force an entity uninvolved with the crime to comply, which everyone agreed was a no-go situation.

It's not that simple. You can see if a lock is locked.
Random bits could be encrypted data or nothing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniable_encryption

 

[poptab]

Probaby.

It's his choice, though.

What if he can't remember the password?

 

[JettaKnight]

Hey mods - can these posts be moved to here?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Semi-related... the whole anti-terror claim and skepticism with use against non-terrorists:

Cops deploy StingRay anti-terror tech against $50 chicken-wing thief