A Look At The Islamic State

[T.Lex]

BBC News - Obama to brief Congress leaders on fight with IS

Looks like Obama is going to make the case for "expanding the military campaign" against ISIS.

Perhaps request a declaration of war? A joint resolution? (hunh hunh I said "joint".)

 

[88GT]

BBC News - Obama to brief Congress leaders on fight with IS

Looks like Obama is going to make the case for "expanding the military campaign" against ISIS.

Perhaps request a declaration of war? A joint resolution? (hunh hunh I said "joint".)

He must not think there's a high chance of success. He needs to find someone to share the failure with.

 

[T.Lex]

I almost (almost) feel bad for the guy. I mean, he has to recognize the risk ISIS poses and he doesn't want to be president for the next big islamofascist terror attack. So, he probably feels compelled to take military action.

But, he's beholden to his base (and what passes for his core beliefs) such that he can't really "do what it takes" to really beat ISIS. He's in a trick bag of his own making.

He's caught between protecting his legacy (no terror attacks) and protecting his legacy (Nobel peace prize winner) with no strong moral compass to help direct his actions. IMHO

 

[HoughMade]

That sounds like a recipe for "limited" military involvement a/k/a losing slowly.

 

[Henry]

Though bathhouse Barry's plan has yet to be announced, I will go ahead and sum up the results of his plan.

1 The state grows.

2 Liberty contracts.

3 An "unprecedented terrorist threat" will present itself later.

4 Repeat

 

[mrjarrell]

The captured and enslaved women are going to have a rough row to hoe in this. Nice to see someone actually pointing a finger at the Saudi's and their wahhabism as a root source for the nonsense these IS goons are spouting.

https://news.vice.com/article/women-abducted-by-the-islamic-state-feared-trapped-in-sexual-slavery

 

[ArcadiaGP]

The most amazing lie he told in his address last night: ISIS isn't *******

To avoid another ban, you'll have to fill in the stars on your own. But it was an outright lie.

 

[jamil]

The most amazing lie he told in his address last night: ISIS isn't *******

To avoid another ban, you'll have to fill in the stars on your own. But it was an outright lie.

That's really meaningless. It's no different than saying "that guy isn't really a ********* because ********** don't behave that way. But that guy still insists he's a **********. Who gets to define what is a real *********?

Many individuals and groups throughout history have sought to control others by exploiting people's beliefs. The Dark Ages were a great example of Western leaders controlling people by controlling belief. I don't blame the name of the belief, I blame the people who control what's being taught. It's another implementation of he who controls the message controls opinions. In that sense the Middle East version of ***** is the message to the masses that uses the belief's label. Could be any belief that a culture embraces and exploited.

Whether they really are or aren't "true believers" is irrelevant so far as condemning an entire belief system. The reality is, IS chops people's heads off. I blame the people who do that. Of course some cultures are more open to encouraging that sort of punishment for infidelity than others.

 

[T.Lex]

Some Americans are racist. Racist Americans sometimes do bad things.

Not all Americans are racist. Doesn't mean the non-racist Americans deserve blame for the bad things racist Americans do.

That's why I tend to use the term "islamofascists." The radicals tend to be more about power - fascism - than religion. That's just the leverage point they use.

 

[OneShotFOGE]

I thought the most amazing lie was how the automotive and manufacturing industries have recovered.

 

[T.Lex]

The biggest lie, IMHO:

Our objective is clear

Neither the objective nor the plan is clear.

 

[Henry]

The title of this thread needs to be changed.

ISIS is not a state. bathhouse barry said so.

 

[IndyDave1776]

The title of this thread needs to be changed.

ISIS is not a state. bathhouse barry said so.

ISIS is not a state? How about a state of insanity?

 

[jamil]

The title of this thread needs to be changed.

ISIS is not a state. bathhouse barry said so.

The AP news has adopted al Jezera's name for them, "Islamic State Group", which I think appropriatly avoids acknowledging them as a state.

 

[T.Lex]

Wait. Why aren't they a state? I keep seeing maps with boundaries that they control. They defend those borders. They make and enforce the laws for the areas they control.

They appear to be doing all the things that states do.

 

[pudly]

Wait. Why aren't they a state? I keep seeing maps with boundaries that they control. They defend those borders. They make and enforce the laws for the areas they control.

They appear to be doing all the things that states do.

So, then you are saying that the US isn't a state?

 

[T.Lex]

So, then you are saying that the US isn't a state?

haha

The boundaries issue is a political wildfire right now, but the reality is that we do defend our borders.

Yes, the US is a state in the geopolitical sense.

 

[ghuns]

Wait. Why aren't they a state? I keep seeing maps with boundaries that they control. They defend those borders. They make and enforce the laws for the areas they control.

They appear to be doing all the things that states do.

Calling them a "state" is absurd. I mean, they have no IRS, no EPA, no FEMA, no dept of HUD, no ATFE, no dept of education, no dept of energy, no FDA, no dept of labor... They barely rate as a county.

 

[T.Lex]

haha

They do have a department of education... it is VERY strict.

 

[ghuns]

haha

They do have a department of education... it is VERY strict.

Maybe they could send over some people to straighten out our schools.