2016 Presidential debate debate

[2A_Tom]

It seemed with a wash to me. I don't believe anyones mind has been changed.

Here On INGO we have the usual suspects, Hillary supporters are for Hillary, swallow hard and vote for Trump folks are swallowing hard and Libertarians are Libertarians.

Lester was shilling for Hillary.

I was concerned with Trumps stance on the no fly list although he did make the case for due process along with it.

It seems that Hillary spent all of her entire time in debate prep learning how to smile. The full body brace plugged into the sockets on the floor worked well, and the shunt and pump kept her drugged the whole time.

 

[Sylvain]

My vote changed from likely Trump to definitely Johnson

I thought that Gary Johnson was the winner of the debate.

Would have been more fun if he was actually on the stage though.
I doubt it will happen, unless they use some unbiased polls to show him at 15% or over.
All the polls they use conveniently keep him under the 15% mark.

 

[seedubs1]

The media doesn't want him in, so the poll they pick will show him as being under 15%. Any polls with him above 15% will be burnt and disregarded.

I thought that Gary Johnson was the winner of the debate.

Would have been more fun if he was actually on the stage though.
I doubt it will happen, unless they use some unbiased polls to show him at 15% or over.
All the polls they use conveniently keep him under the 15% mark.

 

[Sylvain]

The media doesn't want him in, so the poll they pick will show him as being under 15%. Any polls with him above 15% will be burnt and disregarded.

Yep, using polls to figure out who's on the stage is biased and unfair anyway.
They might as well pick the winner with a few chosen polls rather than having the people vote.

They should have all the candidates on stage regardless of the polls, same way they did it during the primaries.

 

[nate77]

I'm still voting Trump, but I thought he stunk it up last night. He pulled his punches, his counter punches were ineffective, and he left mountains of golden material on the cutting room floor.

Geez,
Hillary voted for the Iraq war while in the senate.
No power from renewables when the sun isn't out and the wind isn't blowing.
Declared war on coal.
The DNC leak didn't come from Russia, it was an inside job; he should have mentioned Assange, and the dead DNC staffer.
Shady Clinton foundation deals like Haiti, and only 6% of funds actually making it to charity.
Manditory Minimums were passed by Bill Clinton, and supported by her.
The birther story was started by Hillary clinton, so she's the racist.
Speaking of racists, why not drop her association with Robert Byrd?
The 08 crash wasn't caused by tax cuts, it was caused by Democrat pushed sub prime lending.
Benghazi, and letting 4 Americans die.
She plays dirty, he should play dirty right back, bring up the rapes, and the deaths surrounding the Clintons.

Two more scheduled debates, I hope Trump decides to show up next time.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Wonder what the angle is here. Trump News Network says Hillary won

 

[2A_Tom]

I actually thought he was intentionally not being mean, he did make some subtle digs at her, had he pressed as hard as he could have he would have been accused of bullying her.

I really believe that just the mention of her foibles starts the narrative running in folks minds.

 

[miguel]

If I ran for office, you would vote for me...and you'd only second guess for a moment because it's me. Then you'd hear how I'd reign in welfare, and you'd think I was the second coming of Reagan.

If you had a campaign yard sign that read, "Kut the Crap in D.C." I would totally put one in my yard.

 

[nate77]

Wonder what the angle is here. Trump News Network says Hillary won

Maybe the angle is she was more polished and prepared?

 

[Libertarian01]

I am NO WAY a Hillary supporter but I do believe, overall, that she won the debate.

By winning I believe was able to articulate some points better and "appear" more in control overall.

That is NOT to say that Trump didn't do well, especially in the beginning, but he blew some key death strokes that could have nailed it for him.

I note this especially when talking about cybersecurity. Trump should have laughed out load when the question came to him. "You're asking my opponent about cybersecurity? First, you need to explain to her what the big (C) means on an email. And while we're discussing email she can't even successfully erase emails that she wants to, and you want HER opinion about cybersecurity...?" Or something to that effect.

On race relations he could have reached out huge by simply voicing his opposition to criminal laws that have a disparate impact on minorities, such as certain parts of the drug war.

There were so many missed opportunities by Mr. Trump, yet I don't know if it will really affect the vote. Oh yeah, and on jobs he could have mentioned his idea of basically neutralizing the benefit of domestic companies hiring H1B(maybe H2B?) foreign workers. This would create about a million good paying American jobs overnight.

I would have LOVED to see how this debate would have been altered by the presence of Gary Johnson!!! I believe he could have gotten in very thoughtful points that would have altered the entire nature of some of the back and fourths.

Regards,

Doug

 

[nate77]

I actually thought he was intentionally not being mean, he did make some subtle digs at her, had he pressed as hard as he could have he would have been accused of bullying her.

I really believe that just the mention of her foibles starts the narrative running in folks minds.

Trump should bully away, Hillary surely didn't pull any punches.

 

[printcraft]

......
I would have LOVED to see how this debate would have been altered by the presence of Gary Johnson!!! I believe he could have gotten in very thoughtful points that would have altered the entire nature of some of the back and fourths.

It would have been three on one instead of two on one.

 

[Alpo]

I think I'm gonna pencil in Mitch Daniels and feel pretty good about my choice.

 

[bwframe]

Wonder what the angle is here. Trump News Network says Hillary won

It's interesting that you don't post links with your NeverTump supporting screen caps.

Pat Caddell: Breitbart/Gravis Post-Debate Flash Poll Shows Hillary Clinton Won Slightly; Trump Gains 'Plausibility' - Breitbart

From the article:

...“However, 95 percent of the people we contacted told us they were not going to change their vote based on the debate,” Caddell said.Two percent of voters, previously undecided, switched to Trump after the debate. No undecideds went to Clinton. One percent switched from Trump to Clinton, and one percent switched from Clinton to Trump.“Trump won on the most critical factor, on whether Clinton or Trump was more ‘plausible’ as president, 46 percent to her 42 percent,” he said.“That for him is really what this debate was really about,” he said...

...In other questions, 49 percent said Trump was more honest and 42 percent said Clinton was more honest. Forty-eight percent of respondents said in the debate Trump showed he would be a strong leader, compared with 44 percent for Clinton.“With regards to expectations, 26 percent said Trump did better than they expected,” he said.

“Trump, as the challenger in this race, has a so-s0 performance against Clinton, but he gained what he needed,” he said.“Like most debates, this debate did not shift the race. What it did do was show Trump as plausible, as a strong leader and more importantly that he cares about people,” he said. “Trump really helped himself out tonight...

...”Caddell said he was very happy with the Brietbart/Gravis sample. “I am proud that we used a serious sample, unlike other outlets that were heavily skewed.”...

 

[nate77]

It would have been three on one instead of two on one.

 

[printcraft]

I think the biggest complaint from Trump supporters is that he was too nice and didn't bring gasoline and a match.

 

[T.Lex]

I think the biggest complaint from Trump supporters is that he was too nice and didn't bring gasoline and a match.

Isn't that what Trump supporters want in a president? Something along the lines of "burn baby burn"?

 

[nate77]

I think the biggest complaint from Trump supporters is that he was too nice and didn't bring gasoline and a match.

He was probably listening to his establishment advisers, hopefully next time he'll just be himself; a sharp, witty, fire breathing *******.

 

[nate77]

"burn baby burn"?

That works; no ones deserves it more than the Clintons.

 

[indiucky]

Isn't that what Trump supporters want in a president? Something along the lines of "burn baby burn"?

More along the lines of this..I bet if someone came up with a photoshop of Trump in this pose (Are you listening Printcraft?) it would sell on T Shirts...