2014 Legislative session

[mshogren]

Watching Fox 59, they implied that a compromise might be to make it a misdemeanor instead of a felony to have it in your car...that would pretty much gut it in my mind...

Mark

 

[brotherbill3]

Watching Fox 59, they implied that a compromise might be to make it a misdemeanor instead of a felony to have it in your car...that would pretty much gut it in my mind...

Mark

That is part of the amendment - if you are legally allowed to have it per the rest of the law (as revised in SB 229) - but store it NOT out of sight etc . then it is an A misdemeanor. ...

 

[mshogren]

That is part of the amendment - if you are legally allowed to have it per the rest of the law (as revised in SB 229) - but store it NOT out of sight etc . then it is an A misdemeanor. ...

I am familiar with that part of the bill...maybe that is what they were thinking was a compromise...we can only hope. Tried to research the conference committee process, and could not find much on the IGA site. I just don't see much room to compromise between the 2 sides...one wants to keep them banned and the other does not...no middle ground there...so I think either the HB1048 stuff stays or it goes...or it all dies in 4 days...

Mark

 

[brotherbill3]

Roger that mshogren - ... I jsut found Fox 59 report.

Not sure where MdA gets 3K members. ... LOL well the same way they get 44+ School incidents - inflation.
Their FBk page has 917 likes for "MdA - IN" ... (keep tabs, I do) ... made up, irrelevant stats and made up stats. ugh.

 

[mshogren]

OK, here is what I found so far:

From Indiana Protection & Advocacy Services, "HOW A BILL BECOMES A LAW IN INDIANA":
Conference Committee — If the bill passed by one chamber is then amended by the other, the first chamber must agree upon the amendment(s) before the legislative process can be completed. Should the first chamber dissent (refuse to agree to the changes) a conference committee of two members from each house is appointed to work out a version of the bill that will be satisfactory to both houses. All four must sign the conference committee report and it must be favorably voted on in both houses. Once this has been accomplished, the bill goes to the governor for signature.

From Indiana Chamber, "How a Bill Becomes a Law":
Conference Committee – A bill which survives both houses but is amended in the second chamber in a manner unacceptable to the house of origin must go to a conference committee consisting of two members appointed from each house. The committee members attempt to reach an agreement that will be acceptable to legislators in both chambers. All four members of the committee must sign the conference committee report and it must be approved in both houses. Bills sometimes die because no such agreement can be reached.

I interpret this to mean, they all need to agree or it dies...don't see how that is going to happen.

Mark

 

[Bill of Rights]

If I was guessing (and mind you, this is only my guess) I'd not expect Sen. Tomes or Rep. Eberhard to sign off on something that returned the "roaming school zone" after July 1. The only thing that removes that is Rep. Lucas' amendments. Conversely, I can't imagine Rep. Lawson signing off on something that "allowz gunz in skoolz!" even though this bill does no such thing. The minimal impression I've gotten of Sen. Broden is that, while he is anti-gun rights for the people, it's not as big an issue for him as it is for, say, Sen. Wyss or Rep. Lawson.

Analysis: If my guesses, above, are correct, and the leadership of the Houses wants to see these good measures pass, I can see them prevailing upon Rep. Lawson to sign off, probably in exchange for someone else's signature on some other measure she wants. If Sen. Broden is the only one obstructing 229's passage, he will probably sign. The enormous problem with all of this is that I can't judge accurately whether this is what I really think WILL happen or HAS happened.... or if it's just what I want to see. That's the problem with bias and a lack of facts... I can't give you a good prediction without the facts, and sadly, I don't have them.

Bottom line: my confidence in this prediction: 50/50. It could go either way. Sorry I can't be more specific. If/when I have more info, so will you.

Blessings,
Bill

News articles are appearing ... decyphering them ... compiling into 'menagerie' of understanding ...

1 point sticks out - ALL 4 CONFEREES must sign off on the 'conformed' legislation ...

Do We - NOW - start writeing Rep. / Speaker Bosma and Sen./President Pro Temp Long and asking for favorable conferees???

I have no idea - BoR - you have more experience on this - but it would not seem "inappropriate" ... we only have 2 days!.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Just saw this. One of the commenter's avatar looks awfully familiar

Debate heats up at Statehouse over guns in school parking lots - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

 

[87iroc]

Looks like the Anti's are fired up and the pro-gun folks are fighting back. Unfortunately we are left to see if they have the ability to push it through or not. My favorite was pointing out what Utah's law is and how many shootings they've had.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Looks like the Anti's are fired up and the pro-gun folks are fighting back. Unfortunately we are left to see if they have the ability to push it through or not. My favorite was pointing out what Utah's law is and how many shootings they've had.

I repeat that to every legislator I email.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Looks like the Anti's are fired up and the pro-gun folks are fighting back. Unfortunately we are left to see if they have the ability to push it through or not. My favorite was pointing out what Utah's law is and how many shootings they've had.

I used that point in testifying for HB 1048.

 

[brotherbill3]

Received this e-mail earlier from a VIP who is very much in the middle of this. Respecting that confidentiality I got this email:

Bill,

Just have everyone keep doing what they’re doing. I feel good about it, and we’ll know something more tomorrow.

Thanks,

Stay tuned and keep at it people

 

[mshogren]

Another round of emails sent...quoted the Utah law info as posted on Wikipedia...maybe it will help...

Mark

 

[rockhopper46038]

Got all of them on the list (from a page or two back) with emails again.

 

[brotherbill3]

Got all of them on the list (from a page or two back) with emails again.

Did you get Broden? S10 ... just checking not sure when that got updated here. ...

 

[mshogren]

Got a response last night that leadership is going to make this happen. I will believe it when I see it though...

Send those emails and make those calls!

Mark

 

[rockhopper46038]

I went back and picked up Broden. I got several positive replies from my emails last night. I'm led to believe that they plan on making this happen. I too will wait until I see it, but this is the time to pour it on.

That listing of emails up thread made it incredibly easy to craft a quick, tight message and individually email each person on the list (plus Broden). Took less than 5 minutes.

C'mon everyone, this is our state, our Bill, we can make this happen. It is most likely the most important 5 minutes you could spend today!

 

[87iroc]

I went back and picked up Broden. I got several positive replies from my emails last night. I'm led to believe that they plan on making this happen. I too will wait until I see it, but this is the time to pour it on.

That listing of emails up thread made it incredibly easy to craft a quick, tight message and individually email each person on the list (plus Broden). Took less than 5 minutes.

C'mon everyone, this is our state, our Bill, we can make this happen. It is most likely the most important 5 minutes you could spend today!

This one? I was just going to grab it to send a couple more emails...updated with Broden...

Sen. Jim Tomes s49@iga.in.gov
Sen. Richard Young s47@iga.in.gov
Rep. Sean Eberhart h57@iga.in.gov
Rep. Linda Lawson H1@iga.in.gov

Sen Broden s10@iga.in.gov
Sen. Brandt Hershman s7@iga.in.gov
Sen. Lindel Hume s47@iga.in.gov
Sen. Brent Steele s44@iga.in.gov
Rep. Jud McMillin H68@iga.in.gov
Rep. Tom Dermody H20@iga.in.gov
Rep. Alan Morrison H42@iga.in.gov
Rep. Jerry Torr H39@iga.in.gov
Rep. Terri Austin H36@iga.in.gov
Rep. Ryan Dvorak H8@iga.in.gov
Rep. Jim Lucas H69@iga.in.gov

 

[87iroc]

Emails sent to Broden and Lawson...

 

[lonehoosier]

This one? I was just going to grab it to send a couple more emails...updated with Broden...

Sen. Jim Tomes s49@iga.in.gov
Sen. Richard Young s47@iga.in.gov
Rep. Sean Eberhart h57@iga.in.gov
Rep. Linda Lawson H1@iga.in.gov

Sen Broden s10@iga.in.gov
Sen. Brandt Hershman s7@iga.in.gov
Sen. Lindel Hume s47@iga.in.gov
Sen. Brent Steele s44@iga.in.gov
Rep. Jud McMillin H68@iga.in.gov
Rep. Tom Dermody H20@iga.in.gov
Rep. Alan Morrison H42@iga.in.gov
Rep. Jerry Torr H39@iga.in.gov
Rep. Terri Austin H36@iga.in.gov
Rep. Ryan Dvorak H8@iga.in.gov
Rep. Jim Lucas H69@iga.in.gov

Thanks, contacted them all.

 

[asipes]

Round 4, or 5 or heck who knows. I sent emails again! Thank you all who are doing their part. If you're reading this and haven't yet contacted the people listed above. Send 'em a short note in support of SB229. It's EASY.

*** Also... it's probably a good idea to tell them exactly what you want in the subject line. Time is VERY short and they may not have time to read your email. They might just see our emails in their inbox that say "Support SB229" in the subject line though.