17 year old kid shot dead by Neighborhood Watch "Captain"

[Kutnupe14]

Will this do?

That works nicely

 

[Kutnupe14]

You got "burned" by your own words.

Sprinkle a few lies made by you here and there, and I'd agree. Fortunately, I had a chance to expose your creative writing before it got lost.

 

[cobber]

They still should be permanently retired for their lack of ethical conduct.

Lack of ethical conduct for losing a trial? Maybe the jury got it wrong. Or maybe the prosecutor thought it was a good case and the jury simply disagreed.

Juries that acquit don't necessarily believe the charge was incorrect. Sometimes they think the defendant was guilty, but the evidence did not exclude every other real possibility.

It happens. Doesn't make it an ethical failure.

How about defense attorneys who don't get an acquittal? Malpractice? Incompetence?

 

[CarmelHP]

Sprinkle a few lies made by you here and there, and I'd agree. Fortunately, I had a chance to expose your creative writing before it got lost.

Lies by me? What a howler! You're the only one who can come up with "if Zimmerman got out of his truck he's guilty" is not the same as "Zimmerman is not permitted to get out of his truck" or "not permitted to be on the sidewalk." Where was he permitted if getting out of the truck makes him guilty? Then you ridiculously try to cover your tracks by lying and trying a diversion. Do you plant evidence too? Make up testimony? Shake down teenagers to steal their beer? You seem to be ethically challenged and it's increasingly unbecoming.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Lies by me? What a howler! You're the only one who can come up with "if Zimmerman got out of his truck he's guilty" is not the same as "Zimmerman is not permitted to get out of his truck" or "not permitted to be on the sidewalk." Where was he permitted if getting out of the truck makes him guilty? Then you ridiculously try to cover your tracks by lying and trying a diversion. Do you plant evidence too? Make up testimony? Shake down teenagers to steal their beer? You seem to be ethically challenged and it's increasingly unbecoming.

Yeah, just next time when you decide to lie on somebody, choose someone who won't call you out. You'll never become a "real boy" nor will your nose cease to stop growing if you keep up with your non-truths.

 

[CarmelHP]

Yeah, just next time when you decide to lie on somebody, choose someone who won't call you out. You'll never become a "real boy" nor will your nose cease to stop growing if you keep up with your non-truths.

Except you can't point out exactly how it's a "lie." Yeah, right-o. This ghetto bully crap may work when you're trying to steal beer from teenagers, but not here. Does your chief know you spend all you patrol time posting on here?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Except you can't point out exactly how it's a "lie." Yeah, right-o. This ghetto bully crap may work when you're trying to steal beer from teenagers, but not here. Does your chief know you spend all you patrol time posting on here?

Not working Pinoc, but thanks for caring.

 

[KG1]

Non of this back and forth has anything to do with the actual thread topic but I must say that I find this "Punch and Judy Show" amusing.

 

[semperfi211]

When is this trial going to start?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Non of this back and forth has anything to do with the actual thread topic but I must say that I find this "Punch and Judy Show" amusing.

I KNOW, someone care to get thus thread back on topic? I can bite my tongue for a Lil while.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

When is this trial going to start?

I think I heard the trial is set for next year, but I could be mistaken.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Some of you folks probably need to take a break from this thread for a couple days; give yourselves a chance to cool off.

 

[griffin]

Zimmerman trial outrage - Washington Times

It is also disconcerting to contemplate the possibility that Mr. Zimmerman could be scapegoated to avoid the eruption of civil unrest if the results are less than satisfactory to some individuals.

 

[figley]

When is this trial going to start?

I believe there are a few folks in Washington, who don't want anything to move until after November.

DiwataMan2 is getting the full audio interviews up on Youtube. I just listened to three separate interviews of, "John", who saw TM raining down blows, MMA-style. He's, "Witness #6".

 

[griffin]

More motions will be heard June 1.

George Zimmerman's attorney wants time to review records - BostonHerald.com

O’Mara argued that some evidence the state has collected may be inadmissible and could inflame tensions in the racially charged controversy and jeopardize Zimmerman’s right to a fair trial.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/23/2814613/prosecutors-in-george-zimmerman.html

“Certain discovery, though completely irrelevant, may tend to inflame the passions of those in favor of one position or another in this matter,” attorney Mark O’Mara wrote in a pleading to the court. “As an example . . . there are approximately 1,000 emails received by the Sanford Police Department regarding this case.”

 

[IndyDave1776]

Lack of ethical conduct for losing a trial? Maybe the jury got it wrong. Or maybe the prosecutor thought it was a good case and the jury simply disagreed.

Juries that acquit don't necessarily believe the charge was incorrect. Sometimes they think the defendant was guilty, but the evidence did not exclude every other real possibility.

It happens. Doesn't make it an ethical failure.

How about defense attorneys who don't get an acquittal? Malpractice? Incompetence?

Perhaps I failed to adequately explain my point, which is the ethical failure I have noticed with prosecutors who will charge individuals who should not have been in the first place with the foundational error being that they are completely indifferent to whether or not the accused is actually guilty but only whether or not they think they can win regardless of the truth of the matter. Prosecutors who consider their purpose in life to get convictions as opposed to establishing truth and justice should not be tolerated. The remark of 'getting justice for Trayvon' is a clear indicator of having no concern for the truth, only seeing a score marked up in her favor.

No, I do not accuse anyone of an ethical deficiency for trying to do the right thing and failing to accomplish that. We all know what a gamble the courtroom can be.

 

[figley]

Zimmerman trial outrage - Washington Times

It is also disconcerting to contemplate the possibility that Mr. Zimmerman could be scapegoated to avoid the eruption of civil unrest if the results are less than satisfactory to some individuals.

From the same article:

Parties are jumping to conclusions that are not based on facts or evidence but instead on the preponderance of divergent public opinion.

The, "facts & evidence", crowd, which now includes two criminal law professors, leans one way, while the, "public opinion", crowd, which includes two un-trustworthy Reverends, leans the other.

 

[Kutnupe14]

From the same article:


The, "facts & evidence", crowd, which now includes two criminal law professors, leans one way, while the, "public opinion", crowd, which includes two un-trustworthy Reverends, leans the other.

I don't doubt Alan Dershowitz's talent, but how much weight does one want to place on the opinion (and unless he has all the evidence, that's exactly what it is) of a guy who believed and represented a rapist (Mike Tyson), a terrorist (Patty Hearst), and a guy who fleeced millions from the elderly (Jim Baker).

 

[KG1]

I don't doubt Alan Dershowitz's talent, but how much weight does one want to place on the opinion (and unless he has all the evidence, that's exactly what it is) of a guy who believed and represented a rapist (Mike Tyson), a terrorist (Patty Hearst), and a guy who fleeced millions from the elderly (Jim Baker).

I do believe all of those cases were in the "L" column.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I do believe all of those cases were in the "L" column.

They were indeed