17 year old kid shot dead by Neighborhood Watch "Captain"

[Roadie]

Why is everyone distracted by this? There are much more important issues.

More important than the legal repercussions that can affect all gun owners, whether you live in Florida or not? Wow.

Exactly why we as gun owners SHOULD be interested in this case. The outcry for changes in gun laws is already happening..

 

[CarmelHP]

Dershowitz: The charging instrument filed against George Zimmerman is “unethical” and will never make it past a judge

Dershowitz: The charging instrument filed against George Zimmerman is “unethical” and will never make it past a judge « Hot Air

Video - Charge is irresponsible and unethical

"Nothing in affidavit suggests a crime, and a good judge will throw it out."

Dershowitz is very liberal, but he usually also has an honest opinion. The prosecution is way out on a limb. I agree with him it's a political ploy.

 

[churchmouse]

Exactly why we as gun owners SHOULD be interested in this case. The outcry for changes in gun laws is already happening..

Post #2369. I see this and did from the very start when it became political. Yoy can thank Osama for this.

 

[Kutnupe14]

"and we have no idea who it was. However one of them illustrated their stupidity first, and illegal acts and stupidity often go hand in hand. "

Could you clarify your inferances in that statement of yours for me?

Seems to me your are refering to Zimmerman.

Care to post the entire quote as so it's not taken out of context?

 

[bobzilla]

Care to post the entire quote as so it's not taken out of context?

Didn't you also mention he deserved to lose all of his income, his money and his life? I remember reading that about 100 pages back.....

 

[griffin]

Mark Levin's take on the PC affidavit.

http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-l...support-probable-cause-for-2nd-degree-murder/

Entire show 4/12: Mark Levin

 

[Kutnupe14]

Didn't you also mention he deserved to lose all of his income, his money and his life? I remember reading that about 100 pages back.....

How old are you, cause you memory is the suxors

 

[Fletch]

Dershowitz is very liberal, but he usually also has an honest opinion. The prosecution is way out on a limb. I agree with him it's a political ploy.

I'm not a fan of Dershowitz, but he's always come across as having intellectual integrity. Glad I'm not alone in that opinion.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

For me to engage a person, I would have to be able to articulate what is suspicious. Peering in someone window certainly suspicious. Cutting through yards at 2am, again suspicious. Checking doors in a supermarket lot, suspicious. These can all be easily articulated because there are specifics. Zimmerman's only specific quote was that martin looked "messed up" implying he was on drugs. Drugs? Why couldn't he just as easily be "messed" up on "alcohol?" Why the leap directly to "drugs?" Does Zimmerman have some sort of degree in pharmacology that were not aware of? What specifics did Zimmerman state that would confirm his belief, other than that Martin had his "hand in his waistband." Or, was he simply talking out of the side of his mouth?

And what's this nonsense about CPD and DWB? You are sorely mistaken, every traffic stop is done so for a legit reason, and I would challenge you to produce a person that can say otherwise. That song and dance is getting old. Everybody want to play the victim.

I know it's not Carmel, and I know it's not DWB, but it does happen in Hamilton County.

Westfield police officer charged in alleged shake-down scheme - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

 

[griffin]

» 1,018 Black Americans murdered by Black Americans since Trayvon Martin’s death 47 days ago

 

[Kutnupe14]

I know it's not Carmel, and I know it's not DWB, but it does happen in Hamilton County.

Westfield police officer charged in alleged shake-down scheme - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

Ok, Westfield. But that is hardly typical of how they do business. At least in my experience working with them.

 

[Kutnupe14]

» 1,018 Black Americans murdered by Black Americans since Trayvon Martin’s death 47 days ago

Relevence?

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Is it possible that Zimmerman said something that Martin felt was a threat and chose to take action?

Yep. It's also possible that space aliens took over Martin's brain and caused him to attack Zimmerman, and then used mind control to force Zimmerman to shoot Martin. But what's possible, plausible and probable are nothing more than Internet, Congressional, MSM and NBPP fodder. What is important is the evidence presented at trial, the veracity and weight that evidence is given by the jury, and the verdict that jury renders based upon the evidence.

Ok, Westfield. But that is hardly typical of how they do business. At least in my experience working with them.

I know. It is rogue ex cop stuff. I was just pointing out that it does happen closer than what you maybe wanted to admit.

 

[blamecharles]

Relevence?

Know any of their names? Any of them look like Obama's son? Al, Jesse, NBP, Farrakhan? It may have nothing to do with the case but it really has everything to do with the case.

 

[Hotdoger]

Ok, Westfield. But that is hardly typical of how they do business. At least in my experience working with them.

Mmmmmm. Westfield PD is well known for their fishing trips.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Relevence?

It appears to indicate that the importance of the crime depends not on its nature or its severity but on the ethnicity of the person who stands accused. By extension, it points to an organized effort to make a political football out of any incident in which a black individual is actually or allegedly victimized by one or more non-black individuals. Why are the Trayvon Martin case, the Duke rape case, and the Rodney King case treated one way, particularly by the media and the federal government while not a word is heard about such incidents as the three black kids dousing a white kid with gasoline and igniting him, or blacks being killed by other blacks.

 

[Roadie]

Asked:

Relevence?

..and answered:

It appears to indicate that the importance of the crime depends not on its nature or its severity but on the ethnicity of the person who stands accused. By extension, it points to an organized effort to make a political football out of any incident in which a black individual is actually or allegedly victimized by one or more non-black individuals. Why are the Trayvon Martin case, the Duke rape case, and the Rodney King case treated one way, particularly by the media and the federal government while not a word is heard about such incidents as the three black kids dousing a white kid with gasoline and igniting him, or blacks being killed by other blacks.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

We aren't there. We won't be until the headlines are:

"Teenager Shot By Man"
..rather than:
"Black Teen Shot By White Man"
or:
"Black Man Kills Elderly White Couple"
etc

 

[Expat]

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

We aren't there. We won't be until the headlines are:

"Teenager Shot By Man"
..rather than:
"Black Teen Shot By White Man"
or:
"Black Man Kills Elderly White Couple"
etc

They have tried avoiding race in news stories for several years. I read stories with the first headline all the time. Often the body of the story never mentions it either. So far that hasn't been a roaring success in changing our society.

 

[Roadie]

They have tried avoiding race in news stories for several years. I read stories with the first headline all the time. Often the body of the story never mentions it either. So far that hasn't been a roaring success in changing our society.

I wasn't implying that media would change society, rather that societal change would influence media..

 

[strahd71]

I wasn't implying that media would change society, rather that societal change would influence media..

wait a minute..... has anyone told the media about this? i dont think they are going to go a long with this....

jake